Cutting cycle.

[SaiBoT]

A friend of mine asked me for advice on a cutting cycle with Winstrol tabs and Test proprionate. He is 5 11 over 210lbs would say around 18% BF maybe less, solid guy training for years and knows alot about it and diets too. So about the cycle with those two I was thinking something like:

Test p Weeks 1-10 100mg every other day

and Winstrol tabs 50mg everyday maybe during all 10 weeks or just after the 5th week on test since the propionate doesn't cause much bloat. Thoughts guys?

Plus what would be a decent PCT?

 

[brandonp005]

Weeks 1-10 Test Prop @ 100mg/EOD
Weeks 5-10 Winny @ 50mg/ED
Weeks 5-10 Cycle Support Formula (protect that liver)
Weeks 11-14 Test Recovery Stack from PP
Weeks 11-14 Clomid @ 25mg/ED

 

[joe d]

the above looks good but i would use nolva 20mg ed instead of clomid.

 

[SaiBoT]

Weeks 1-10 Test Prop @ 100mg/EOD
Weeks 5-10 Winny @ 50mg/ED
Weeks 5-10 Cycle Support Formula (protect that liver)
Weeks 11-14 Test Recovery Stack from PP
Weeks 11-14 Clomid @ 25mg/ED

Thanks b. He has clomid on hand already so this looks good.

 

[SaiBoT]

the above looks good but i would use nolva 20mg ed instead of clomid.

thanks joe.

 

[SaiBoT]

bump

 

[anal itch]

How many cycles has this guy done? Remember for the most part cutting or bulking is diet based.

I love prop and tren ace for cutting up. It's my go to for my spring cycle to ger ready for summer.

If hes cycled a few times before I would go

weeks 1-10 test prop 100MG ED
Weeks 4-10 tren ace 50MD ED

Load them up in the same pin to keep injections to a minimum.

And I think nolva is crap, but would use it over clomid. I like letro myself.

I've done this with outstanding results!

weeks 1-10 100MG test prop ED
weeks 1-10 75MG tren ace ED
weeks 4-10 winny tabs 100MG ED

It's a lot, but the results were amazing! Then again it was my 7th cycle...

 

[SaiBoT]

How many cycles has this guy done? Remember for the most part cutting or bulking is diet based.

I love prop and tren ace for cutting up. It's my go to for my spring cycle to ger ready for summer.

If hes cycled a few times before I would go

weeks 1-10 test prop 100MG ED
Weeks 4-10 tren ace 50MD ED

Load them up in the same pin to keep injections to a minimum.

And I think nolva is crap, but would use it over clomid. I like letro myself.

I've done this with outstanding results!

weeks 1-10 100MG test prop ED
weeks 1-10 75MG tren ace ED
weeks 4-10 winny tabs 100MG ED

It's a lot, but the results were amazing! Then again it was my 7th cycle...

Thanks for the input, he only did winstrol tabs before a couple years back, but he knows alot about diet and stuff, he is a personal trainer and huge for a non-juicer. Tren would work great, but he is not ready for that.

 

[OMEGA]

Tesy P + NPP the first 6 weeks

Test P + Winnie + NPP the last 6 weeks

these are the 2 more popular PCTS:

1: Chem based
hcg 2000 iu e4 days 12 days before end of cycle
run Aromasin with it at 15 mgs a day

then for 4 weeks run Clomid at 50 mgs a day with Aromasin at 20 mgs till you recover

2: Composite Supp + Chem based PCT - post cycle therapy -
Unleashed ed
Dermacrine ed
Aromasin 10 mgs every other day
Clomid at 25 mgs a day the first 2 weeks


Supps are Key too

Creatine Daily
Glutamine Daily

also cut back on intensity by about 33% till you truly feel recovered

 

[SaiBoT]

Tesy P + NPP the first 6 weeks

Test P + Winnie + NPP the last 6 weeks

these are the 2 more popular PCTS:

1: Chem based
hcg 2000 iu e4 days 12 days before end of cycle
run Aromasin with it at 15 mgs a day

then for 4 weeks run Clomid at 50 mgs a day with Aromasin at 20 mgs till you recover

2: Composite Supp + Chem based PCT - post cycle therapy -
Unleashed ed
Dermacrine ed
Aromasin 10 mgs every other day
Clomid at 25 mgs a day the first 2 weeks


Supps are Key too

Creatine Daily
Glutamine Daily

also cut back on intensity by about 33% till you truly feel recovered

Thank you for the detailed post bro, specially the PCT part! Thing is I'm sure he won't be doing the NPP because it takes a longer time for a nandrolone to get out of the system and since he might be drug tested at the end of the year, it surely would accuse positive.

Anyway, this one sounds good to my goals, what are your thoughts on EQ for cutting by the way?

 

[sweed]

I think the npp gets out of your system a lot quicker than the deca.

 

[Nomak666]

i doubt he will get anything from thwe winny at 18%. i would save it for when he gets lower say 10-12%, just from my personal expierience