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Buddy_Christ
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jerseyart said:
Yeah, what he said.
I don't agree most of the time for giving a lesser sentence simply because of motive though.
What happens after their sentencing, however, should definetly differ. The person that stole to feed his family should be pointed in the direction of programs that can help him and his family. I know a lot of people think local, state, and federal programs like that are a waste of taxpayer money, but if the guy in Situation A needed the assistance and wouldn't have stolen otherwise, then getting him into those programs as a part of probation would, in theory, keep him from committing a criminal act again.
I better stop now or this is going to turn into a 10 page essay
toxicsambo
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Dial_tone said:
ahh, socioeconomic factor vs reckless behaviour.
Well, we all know crimes have more info than that. Armed? Any1 get hurt? How much?
Anyway, because some1 is poor and hungry doesn't give them free reign to steal from you or I. It's an excuse. My greatgrandfather came here from Italy in the late 1800's and worked. He didn't steal to support a family. I've worked with Haitian women who have 3 fkn jobs. 3! If a Hatian immigrant can come here and get 3 jobs, then there's no fkn excuse why some1 needs to steal and say they can't find one job. That's why we pay all these fkn taxes for social programs. Because everyone is able to get a job. A 12 yr old delivers fkn papers, but an adult has to steal? Hell no. Stealing is stealing. Don't take what isn't your's. Simple. You want it, then work for it. And not every1 gets what they wish they could have. That's life. But if you'r caught stealing then you fkd up, plain and simple. If the guys family is starving then the state helps them. Isn't that why welfare is used and abused? Used by the needy, abused by the lazy.
btw: Nice titties Dial Tone. lol
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Buddy_Christ
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toxicsambo said:
Settle down Beavis. We're having a discussion, not burning people at the stake.
Buddy_Christ
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CFZB said:
Murder vs. Self Defense.
Now if you want to get into cases where women have been battered and abused by spouses and then killed their spouse, then claimed it was Battered Women's Syndrome, that's a whole other ball of wax. Some of them are pre-mediated yet they use that defense and it makes things easier on them.
Buddy_Christ
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CFZB said:
They are different things, however, like I stated already, there are programs in place to help people in these situations so they don't have to steal. Everyone knows they exist. Stealing for food could have been avoided. Murdering in self defense of a rape, well, different story.
Right now I could walk next door and find out where all the food banks in this area are and even get directions to them. The only reason I could do this so easily is because my dumb ass neighbor was bragging about how she visits 3 different food banks in the area once a week because "it's free!" She pays the Schwans guy in food stamps. Oh yeah, she also keeps a membership paid to the YMCA and her and her husband go out every other week. Just a case of someone abusing stuff that was put in place to help others that do need it.
Here's one i really love....right up the street from us is Section 8 Housing (low income government funded). I find it quite odd that every time I drive by there, half the cars in the parking lots are newer and more expensive than me and my gf's cars, yet these people are considered to be in poverty, thus the reason they live in government housing.
If people can abuse the system, then those that need it can use the system the way it was intended to be used.
CrazyRussian
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Offuckingcourse they should serve the same time. Criminal A should be working, not stealing
Buddy_Christ
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CFZB said:what if he/she realy didnt know about the help?
hypothetically.
Already covered that in my first post on the thread. They should be asked if they know about these things and if not, they should be given information on where to go to get the help they need, thus helping them to avoid committing another criminal act.
I'd like to believe deep down inside that that is exactly what would happen, the person would be pointed in the right direction, but the realist in me says that it wouldn't. If the person lived in a large city where the courts were overloaded to begin with, chances are they'd meet the public defender a few minutes before going in front of the judge, barely enough time to even discuss why they did what they did.
Oh man...you're getting me started....
crak600 said:Already covered that in my first post on the thread. They should be asked if they know about these things and if not, they should be given information on where to go to get the help they need, thus helping them to avoid committing another criminal act.
I'd like to believe deep down inside that that is exactly what would happen, the person would be pointed in the right direction, but the realist in me says that it wouldn't. If the person lived in a large city where the courts were overloaded to begin with, chances are they'd meet the public defender a few minutes before going in front of the judge, barely enough time to even discuss why they did what they did.
Oh man...you're getting me started....
yup.thanks though.lickin lollypops
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Stealing is stealing no matter how you look at it.......
toxicsambo
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crak600 said:
So you don't mind ppl stealing from you? As long as they have a good excuse.
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Buddy_Christ
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toxicsambo said:
I never said that. You just went off on some wild tangent about 3 jobs and hatians and f this and f that...I actually envisioned Beavis flipping out about something when reading your post. Dunno why.
toxicsambo
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crak600 said:
Speaking the truth bro. A grown man stealing is not honorable. If he has a family, it's even worse because he's not providing as a civil human. Every1 here has stolen something one time or another. But failing to support a family and resorting to theft is sad. Those cases are the minority though. Because most ppl know there are better ways to provide for a family. The ones who don't are criminals, no way about it. Mobsters are supporting thier family through racketeering, theft, selling drugs. If they don't do it, their family will starve. They're fkn criminals nonetheless.
Most ppl steal because they want something they don't feel like paying for or just don't give a fuck. Oh, and my use of the word "fuck" is rampant. I grew up on Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy, and Redd Foxx. When I say it, it's usually just another verb to me. So go fuck yourself
toxicsambo
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CFZB said:
Wow, what a pushover. Either you're a fool, or just that dumb.
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