Couple quick T-bol Q's

[Slyder190]

How liver toxic is it and how long do you have to wait to start PCT after your last dose? I may add it in the final weeks of my cycle.

 

[Workout King]

not very toxic, and some people say you can start the pct the next day, and some i've heard 3-4 days afterwards.

 

[monster2929]

find the clearance time and start after that i dont think it any more liver toxic than VAR!!!!!!

 

[smaretick]

How liver toxic is it and how long do you have to wait to start PCT after your last dose? I may add it in the final weeks of my cycle.

As far as liver toxicity, it depends on how high of a dosage you are using.

 

[Slyder190]

What's the regular standard dose? Like a nice healthy dose (on the upward side)? I started my current cycle with 6 weeks of D-bol, so I'm tryin to figure out if 4 weeks of T-bol at the end would be overkill. Still no final word on the clearance time?

 

[DieselGunz]

normal dosages range from 40mgs to 60mgs


Bump for Mendo or Bruce they are the tbol gurus

 

[BigAndy69]

On it right now, definetely more liver toxic than Var judging from my Urine colour.

Good AS overall, strong and very few sides (day 9)

 

[ChefWide]

On it right now, definetely more liver toxic than Var judging from my Urine colour.

Good AS overall, strong and very few sides (day 9)

Andy, your urine color is more likely than not due to added renal stresses you assume by taking tbol, up your water, add a decent flushing agent like cranberry and make sure your electrolyte balance is good...

 

[mendo]

I take 50 or 60mg/ed with good results. I always start nolva the day after my last tab. HCG during the last 10 days before PCT if it was a long cycle.

As for liver toxicity: I had bloodwork done last spring right after a 4 week tbol only cycle @ 50mg/ed and I was surprised when I got the results back. It was the most mild on the liver of any oral I've taken (I've never run var at low doses though), and my lipids weren't that bad at all...here's the values from the blood test:


Total bilirubin - 1.8 mg/dL (0.1-1.2) High
Serum Alkaline Phosphatase - 60 iu/L (25-150)
LDH - 173 iu/L (100-250)
AST (SGOT) - 31 iu/L (0-40)
ALT (SGPT) - 40 iu/L (0-40) High
GGT - 17 iu/L (0-65)

Lipids:

Cholesterol total - 163 mg/dL (100-199)
Triglycerides - 145 mg/dL (0-149)
HDL - 39 mg/dL (40-59)
LDL - 95 mg/dL (0-99)


I was also taking Tyler's, 2g/day of standardized milkthistle, 20mg Policosinol, 50mg CoQ-10, and cranberry extract.




Mendo

 

[mendo]

^^^

 

[DieselGunz]

I take 50 or 60mg/ed with good results. I always start nolva the day after my last tab. HCG during the last 10 days before PCT if it was a long cycle.

As for liver toxicity: I had bloodwork done last spring right after a 4 week tbol only cycle @ 50mg/ed and I was surprised when I got the results back. It was the most mild on the liver of any oral I've taken (I've never run var at low doses though), and my lipids weren't that bad at all...here's the values from the blood test:


Total bilirubin - 1.8 mg/dL (0.1-1.2) High
Serum Alkaline Phosphatase - 60 iu/L (25-150)
LDH - 173 iu/L (100-250)
AST (SGOT) - 31 iu/L (0-40)
ALT (SGPT) - 40 iu/L (0-40) High
GGT - 17 iu/L (0-65)

Lipids:

Cholesterol total - 163 mg/dL (100-199)
Triglycerides - 145 mg/dL (0-149)
HDL - 39 mg/dL (40-59)
LDL - 95 mg/dL (0-99)


I was also taking Tyler's, 2g/day of standardized milkthistle, 20mg Policosinol, 50mg CoQ-10, and cranberry extract.




Mendo

Good info, how many pills did you take of tylers a day?

 

[mendo]

Good info, how many pills did you take of tylers a day?

I was taking 6 caps a day of Tyler's.