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Could this be Gyno?

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I am week 5 into a cycle of suts 250 ew and 40mg Var e/d. I have been taking T3 for 3 weeks started at 12.5mcgs e/d ramping to 50 and back down. I am drooping fat and gaining strength, but I have a potential problem around my nipples. When I flex my muscle underneath is very hard but around the bottom of my chest around the nipple there is a fat pocket. Not noticeable when not flexed hardly at all and goes away completely in the shower. My nips are not sore at all whatsoever. It may be just that I am carrying a little extra fat still I dont know. I have been taking .5mg of Liquidex e/d so I haven't had any water bloat from the sust at all really. Do you think the fat around my nips is some sort of gyno starting or am I just paranoid? Is there anything I should take to reduce it? I have heard YES works and I have nolva on hand. I am going to up the sust to 250 e 4 days for the rest of the cycle starting this week. i am running for 12 wks total.

Thanks
 
puffy nips may be because of thyroid use. its likely since you are losing fat, that its making that fat/puffy tissue more apparent.


if you have a decent amount of soft bodyfat tissue, reccomend against the use of arimidex for cycles. Typically if you have higher bodyfat (particularly if its estro type fat) then dex is not the most appropriate AI.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
puffy nips may be because of thyroid use. its likely since you are losing fat, that its making that fat/puffy tissue more apparent.


if you have a decent amount of soft bodyfat tissue, reccomend against the use of arimidex for cycles. Typically if you have higher bodyfat (particularly if its estro type fat) then dex is not the most appropriate AI.
What would you reccomend then? Should I stop the a-dex and switch to something different? I mean it is not that niticeable and not sore. I think you may be right about the T3 making it show up. It has been more prominent since starting the T3.
 
dont stop the dex right now, but you may want to switch to a better AI (aromasin, AIFM). or in the future. Dex seems to be OK in your case with those lower doses, but sounds like it could be a bit better. the profile of the suicidal AI's is just better, they very strongly suppress the more potent estrogens and moderately-strongly suppress the weak estrogens (dex and letro are the opposite-very strong e1 suppression with weaker E2 suppression) though with letro suppressing both strongly- dex at 20-25mg has similar suppresion rate as 2.5mg letro)
 
macrophage69alpha said:
dont stop the dex right now, but you may want to switch to a better AI (aromasin, AIFM). or in the future. Dex seems to be OK in your case with those lower doses, but sounds like it could be a bit better. the profile of the suicidal AI's is just better, they very strongly suppress the more potent estrogens and moderately-strongly suppress the weak estrogens (dex and letro are the opposite-very strong e1 suppression with weaker E2 suppression) though with letro suppressing both strongly- dex at 20-25mg has similar suppresion rate as 2.5mg letro)
So do you think I need not worry about the nipple puffiness? I am almost out of Liquidex and was going to order more. Should I switch to AIFM? Also do you think upping the a-dex to 1mg per day will help at all or should I just leave it at .5?
 
AIFM is certainly an option, as is aromasin. upping it to 1mg will make a slight difference, not much though. for people that have potential issues dex is not a good choice

if you raise the t3 dose and notice more puffyness then start to taper back down and come off of it.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
AIFM is certainly an option, as is aromasin. upping it to 1mg will make a slight difference, not much though. for people that have potential issues dex is not a good choice

if you raise the t3 dose and notice more puffyness then start to taper back down and come off of it.
Ok. thanks for the info. I will order either aromasin or aifm to use for the last 5 wks of the cycle. I also just picked up some T4. Does T4 cause the same issues? Do you know much about it? I am not sure the T3 i am taking is really working. I saw a post saying that research shows Liquid T3 loses its potency very rapidly after being suspended. i felt it the 1st day and haven't felt it since. The T4 i got is tablet form 100mcgs per tab. Do you think it is better to run that?

Thx
 
yes
not really, its not been all that well explored, but t4 and t3 upregulate ER's.
there are a lot of differing opinions on T4, however most favor T3 as being better for protein synthesis and lipolysis. though they both convert to some extent back and forth.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
yes
not really, its not been all that well explored, but t4 and t3 upregulate ER's.
there are a lot of differing opinions on T4, however most favor T3 as being better for protein synthesis and lipolysis. though they both convert to some extent back and forth.
Ok just so I am clear you said yes T4 does cause the same issues, and I could switch to T4 because they both ultimately achieve the same thing in a sense? Someone told me correct dose for T4 is 4x the amount of T3. For example if you are taking 25mcgs of T3 you need to take 100mcgs of T4 for same result. Do you know if this is correct?
 
macrophage69alpha said:
no it means that it suppresses your natural thyroid production more. which is not really a good thing
gotcha. So lower the dose if using to be safer then I assume? Maybe I'll just stick with the T3
 
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