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Cops Raid Wrong Home, Taser Man

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Cops Raid Wrong Home, Taser Man
Sheriff's Deputies Break Down Wrong Door

POSTED: 5:33 a.m. EDT September 17, 2003
UPDATED: 9:09 a.m. EDT September 17, 2003

OMAK, Wash. -- Okanogan County sheriff's deputies seeking a person on outstanding warrants broke down the door to the wrong home and then jolted a man with a Taser in front of his wife and child.

Sheriff Frank Rogers says the bottom line is officers messed up.

No one was seriously injured in the 4:50 a.m. Thursday incident.

Rogers says he delayed releasing information on the botched search until Monday so he could investigate the matter.

The heavily armed officers apparently burst into the wrong trailer at the Homestead Trailer Park in Omak.

The man they were seeking, 30-year-old Joseph M. Parisien, heard the ruckus and tried to escape from another trailer.

He was arrested without incident

http://www.local6.com/news/2489866/detail.html
 
big_bad_buff said:

Sheriff Frank Rogers says the bottom line is officers messed up.

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Didn't expect that. Usually they blame everybody else when they fuck up someones life w/o provocation.
 
well i guess the upside to this is they should be moving out of that trailer as soon as the law suit is settled.
 
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nordstrom said:


Didn't expect that. Usually they blame everybody else when they fuck up someones life w/o provocation.
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I was surprised to see that too.
 
I doubt a tasering fucked up someones life, police officers are people they make mistakes just like you and I, but because society puts them on a pedistal they cant fuck up at all . mistakes happen fucking move on
 
IrishMobBoss said:
I doubt a tasering fucked up someones life, police officers are people they make mistakes just like you and I, but because society puts them on a pedistal they cant fuck up at all . mistakes happen fucking move on
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Taser a cop and its attempted murder. Cop tasers you and its an accident. fuck that shit. The fact that at least 2 of us on this post were suprised that the police took responsibility for themselves & the fact that they screwed up should send a signal about how some of us feel about law enforcement's treatment of the public. like that cop who shot a family dog a few months ago. Doubt anything ever happened to him.

I'd like to see how a prosecutor or the police would act if you made a mistake.
 
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there are some bad cops but this doesnt appear to be the case. Im partial to the police side since I understand police procedure and am going to be a cop in a year or two, but like I said it was a accident , the guy probably went at the police like most people would do if someone came in,but you have to look at it at the police side and their procedure is to defend themselves if someone attacks.
 
IrishMobBoss said:
there are some bad cops but this doesnt appear to be the case. Im partial to the police side since I understand police procedure and am going to be a cop in a year or two, but like I said it was a accident , the guy probably went at the police like most people would do if someone came in,but you have to look at it at the police side and their procedure is to defend themselves if someone attacks.
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i dont know what to tell you. i have strong dislike of police & prosecutors. maybe if i had grown up in a high crime area where people were being victimized and the police & prosecutors came to their aid i would feel different. but i've lived in small towns my whole life and the main function of the cops in places like that is to screw up people's lives over victimless crimes & chickenshit misdemeanors.
 
I see what you are saying but a crime is a crime and if we let one go we would have to let them all go and there would be chaos in society.
 
IrishMobBoss said:
I doubt a tasering fucked up someones life, police officers are people they make mistakes just like you and I, but because society puts them on a pedistal they cant fuck up at all . mistakes happen fucking move on
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What you just said is wrong. Have you ever been tased ? Obviously no. I went through this shit (and pepper spray) as part of my training and it aint fun at all. That guy didnt deserved to be tased so he has every rights to sue the city. The cops made a big mistake and they must pay the price. Most mistakes done on duty are due to some negligent pricks. I've witnessed some detectives showing up to a judge and asking for a warrant based on some BS told by a notorious liar (informant). Some judges are to blame too. But most street cops and "now detectives" have below the average IQ.
 
You must realize some things. The cops were executing a "no-knock warrant" at 4:50am. That aint easy to get. You need a god damn good reason to have one. If first, you can't identify the right person in your request and/or then kick the wrong door, then you are not made for LE. The few times I requested such warrant, I had to show up with a pile of papers probably the size of the bible...
 
I never said he deserved to be tased,but there are so many variables that could have come into play who knows what really happened besides who was there. he probably deserves some compensation but not the millions he will prob get
 
IrishMobBoss said:


elaborate please
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Personal responsibility for your actions is the core of a fair and prosperous society. Allowing avoidable mistakes be simply swept under the rug by calling it a "mistake" is highly biased and destructive.

The US has been reducing its citizen's personal responsibility (as you are doing right now) and the results are obesity, courts packed with frivolous lawsuits and too many laws (and too many citizens in prison for victimless crimes).
 
I do see what you mean I agree they fucked up large but people do make mistakes,and standards may not be to high at that place, so they could very well have bad cops working there.
 
IrishMobBoss said:
I do see what you mean I agree they fucked up large but people do make mistakes,and standards may not be to high at that place, so they could very well have bad cops working there.
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Mistakes were made and now the cop(s) need to be reprimanded and the police department needs to be sued so it does not happen again.
 
2Thick said:


Personal responsibility for your actions is the core of a fair and prosperous society. Allowing avoidable mistakes be simply swept under the rug by calling it a "mistake" is highly biased and destructive.

The US has been reducing its citizen's personal responsibility (as you are doing right now) and the results are obesity, courts packed with frivolous lawsuits and too many laws (and too many citizens in prison for victimless crimes).
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this is what i was going to say. I am a staunch libertarian in issues of law, i do not like the idea of handing responsibility for my protection over to untrustworthy bullies who would come after me at the drop of a hat. I'd rather lock my car at night than depend on an untrustworthy police officer who would harm me w/o remorse to protect me.
 
2Thick said:


Mistakes were made and now the cop(s) need to be reprimanded and the police department needs to be sued so it does not happen again.
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Agreed. It's the American way. To not sue them would be utterly Unamerican, which is why irishmoboss may see it differently.
 
IrishMobBoss said:
I doubt a tasering fucked up someones life, police officers are people they make mistakes just like you and I, but because society puts them on a pedistal they cant fuck up at all . mistakes happen fucking move on
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at the end of the day we're all people. Cops and criminals are people too. so are civilans. We civilians, just like police, have feelings and basic mental needs like the need to be respected, treated humanely or considered like our well being is important. And the police don't really seem to care about any of that. like i said, i found it suprising that the police took responsibility for the fact that they caused emotional suffering on innocent people.

I realize this is all touchy feely shit but its all basic psychology too. if the cops treat civilans like they are not full fledged human being, just people to stomp on, control and throw away then people will reallly hate the cops. trust me on this.
 
they have accepted responsibility which is good,people should do that I dont disagree there,I only disagree with the fact that people go after far more than they deserve, and I feel in the end tax payers end up paying more taxes to deal with this stupid shit. action should be taken by the Internal investigation( i think thats what you guys call it) but a large scale lawsuit isnt needed
 
IrishMobBoss said:
they have accepted responsibility which is good,people should do that I dont disagree there,I only disagree with the fact that people go after far more than they deserve, and I feel in the end tax payers end up paying more taxes to deal with this stupid shit. action should be taken by the Internal investigation( i think thats what you guys call it) but a large scale lawsuit isnt needed
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internal affairs? Would a trial be brought up with the prosecutor who is buddy buddy with the officer.

p0ink put up some stats a while ago, something about how cops who cause traffic accidents are only cited 1/14 of the time, civilians are cited 2/3 of the time.

Either way, my point is that judges & prosecutors sympathize with cops. i dont know if internal affairs treats the police with the same objectiveness that they treat us.
 
man your guys system is fucked up, our Internal investigations of SIU is ran be civilians so things are less bias then yours.

man I am glad I dont live in the states,seems like cops could get away with quite a bit
 
IrishMobBoss said:

man I am glad I dont live in the states,seems like cops could get away with quite a bit
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except racism. A cop can't get away with racism. If you want to know what crimes an american cop can get away with ask Supernav or Bwood about it.
 
ya I guess thats pretty bad anywhere anymore which is good because racist cops is the last thing this world needs,they have far more power than someone with those views needs
 
i think they take racism too far in america with the police. Made up accusations are taken as fact all the time. If internal affairs, the judicial system & the public became laxer with police 'racism' but stricter with harassment, fabrication of crimes, or abuse (verbal, mental, physical) then i would be ok with that. Here in america fabricated charges of racism are thrown around all the time against police but police training manuals teach interrogators how to intimidate & psychologically torture someone out of invoking their constitutional rights because the cops know that they can run rampant on our rights and not be held accountable. Its a strong imbalance, too lax on one side and too tough on the other.
 
makes sense,I was speaking of a standpoint from our police,seems as though you guys have real ass clowns policing your streets over there
 
I want to know what the outcome would have been if the cops broke into his house, and the guy had a shotgun on his lap and killed everyone of those cops as they entered his house

This is how I see it. Cops, bust into your house, you cannot fight back or you will be beaten, shot, sprayed, “tased” and even thrown in jail. You are for the most part, defenseless and at there mercy. There should be no room for mistakes. None what so ever. I hope they sue for millions
 
big_bad_buff said:
I want to know what the outcome would have been if the cops broke into his house, and the guy had a shotgun on his lap and killed everyone of those cops as they entered his house

This is how I see it. Cops, bust into your house, you cannot fight back or you will be beaten, shot, sprayed, “tased” and even thrown in jail. You are for the most part, defenseless and at there mercy. There should be no room for mistakes. None what so ever. I hope they sue for millions
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Agreed. With the extreme power that police officers have they must be held accountable. Criminal charges against those officers are in order.
 
Tazers suck, cattle prod was the worst I've felt though. It actually made me twitch for like 5 minutes after getting hit. (my friend is obsessed w/ tazers, it wasn't the cops)
 
Lituigation is pending. It was nice of the cops to take responsibility for the mistake.

Let's face it, there is a certain type of person who wants to be a cop. In the overwhelming majority of cases, it is someone who is looking to compensate for emotional immaturity.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Lituigation is pending. It was nice of the cops to take responsibility for the mistake.

Let's face it, there is a certain type of person who wants to be a cop. In the overwhelming majority of cases, it is someone who is looking to compensate for emotional immaturity.
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I see a family moving into a nice new house. Yeah!
 
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