I just picked up some Orange Triad the other day because I've read some really good reviews everywhere about the stuff for a multi and what else is in it as well. Just curious though how are Controlled Labs other supps? Any one try any of them and what do you have to say about them? I was checking out the Black Hole supp. to increase your appetite and saw the Engorge stuff the other day and was wondering if it's legit or not? I'm going to be running my first cycle ever with Diesel V2.0 and I want to maximize my gains by eating as much everyday all day that I can and if Engorge or black hole will help I'd love to take them as well on cycle if I can at all possible and if it's safe to as well of course.