Considering Anavar

[meatsicle]

So I've been lifting seriously for a year now. I've made some really solid gains, dropped a lot of bodyfat and basically improved my life tenfold. The gains have started to decrease recently and with them my patience, so I'm looking into Anavar. I've never cycled anything other than clen, so I'm completely new to this facet of bodybuilding.

Anyway, I just have a couple questions for you all.

1) Would 50mg/day on an 8 week cycle show good results? I've read that you really need to take high dosages to see results, but it's also fucking expensive so I don't want to go too crazy.

2) What sort of PCT do you need with Anavar? I know the side effects are very very mild, but I'm not sure how that factors into post-cycle recovery.

Thanks.

EDIT: Oh and as far as my stats go, I'm 24, 6'1, 218lbs and 15% bodyfat according to my calipers.

 

[TVG]

Yup, you will get good results. Many people are going to say you are an idiot for not using test, and they are right in the sense you will get less gains than something stronger, but you will also get zero side effects and still the best gains of your life.

 

[Selene]

So I've been lifting seriously for a year now. I've made some really solid gains, dropped a lot of bodyfat and basically improved my life tenfold. The gains have started to decrease recently and with them my patience, so I'm looking into Anavar. I've never cycled anything other than clen, so I'm completely new to this facet of bodybuilding.

Anyway, I just have a couple questions for you all.

1) Would 50mg/day on an 8 week cycle show good results? I've read that you really need to take high dosages to see results, but it's also fucking expensive so I don't want to go too crazy.

2) What sort of PCT do you need with Anavar? I know the side effects are very very mild, but I'm not sure how that factors into post-cycle recovery.

Thanks.

EDIT: Oh and as far as my stats go, I'm 24, 6'1, 218lbs and 15% bodyfat according to my calipers.

You will have no negative side effects from anavar cycle and you will see good strength gains and muscle hardness

 

[meatsicle]

Thanks for the replies guys. One more question, is it safe to cycle clen and anavar at the same time? I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't be, but I'm just making sure.

 

[Mac173]

Thanks for the replies guys. One more question, is it safe to cycle clen and anavar at the same time? I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't be, but I'm just making sure.

Clen and var are fine together.
Var @50mg is not going to bring much as far as gains.
Are you opposed to using test?
It would be a much better in terms of gains and alot cheaper since you did mention that.

 

[meatsicle]

Clen and var are fine together.
Var @50mg is not going to bring much as far as gains.
Are you opposed to using test?
It would be a much better in terms of gains and alot cheaper since you did mention that.

I'm deathly afraid of gyno. I developed it naturally and had it surgically removed, but the surgeon left a little gland there for chest contour and as I understand it I'd still be at risk for redeveloping it. As I understand test, you lose a lot of your gains when you go off of it and I definitely don't want to be cycling my entire life. Is this accurate or am I way off?

 

[Mac173]

I'm deathly afraid of gyno. I developed it naturally and had it surgically removed, but the surgeon left a little gland there for chest contour and as I understand it I'd still be at risk for redeveloping it. As I understand test, you lose a lot of your gains when you go off of it and I definitely don't want to be cycling my entire life. Is this accurate or am I way off?

Not accurate.
It is possible to lose all of your gains, but your diet, PCT and workouts will dictate that.
I would not worry about gyno at anything less than 500-750.
Not that you won't get it at 500-750, you may if you're prone, just be sure to use an AI, specifically letro if you are really E sensitive.
If I were you I would consider running 300-500 ew and see how it goes for you.

 

[dhawkins]

As for as losing most of your gains on test, your way off. That depends on PCT, diet and training. A lot of guys can retain most of what they put on with test.

 

[NYBodyguard]

test cyp is best for keepable gains you seem to be after size and var is mostlikly last on the list for size gains id take winny over var anyday 25-50mg winstrol a day 6-8weeks

best combo for ya to see nice keepable gains and low sides

test cyp 200mg a week
deca 200mg a week
winny 50mg EOD

this amount wont shut you down hard at all and once off your body will have no hard time getting back to norm test production wise

 

[meatsicle]

test cyp is best for keepable gains you seem to be after size and var is mostlikly last on the list for size gains id take winny over var anyday 25-50mg winstrol a day 6-8weeks

best combo for ya to see nice keepable gains and low sides

test cyp 200mg a week
deca 200mg a week
winny 50mg EOD

this amount wont shut you down hard at all and once off your body will have no hard time getting back to norm test production wise

What would PCT be like with this? Just nolva?

 

[Mac173]

What would PCT be like with this? Just nolva?

HCG,clomid,AI

 

[NYBodyguard]

What would PCT be like with this? Just nolva?

no need for anything at all at these amounts

read the current write up in MD under anabolic freak he explain why at certain doses you dont need pct at all

 

[Mac173]

no need for anything at all at these amounts

read the current write up in MD under anabolic freak he explain why at certain doses you dont need pct at all

I don't know about that, especially w/ deca thrown in there.
Those doses will still shut you down, I don't see how you can suggest that PCT is not needed.

 

[NYBodyguard]

I don't know about that, especially w/ deca thrown in there.
Those doses will still shut you down, I don't see how you can suggest that PCT is not needed.

well if you read up on it you will understand

temp shut down def but when you stop within 2 weeks your body by itself will start producing again he uses women as an example who have been on birth control for 15 years then they stop and within weeks their body starts to be normal again

i dont touch pct i use small doses and its amazing and by the way acne will start for many once they start fucking with pct as the hormones go nuts

 

[Mac173]

well if you read up on it you will understand

temp shut down def but when you stop within 2 weeks your body by itself will start producing again he uses women as an example who have been on birth control for 15 years then they stop and within weeks their body starts to be normal again

i dont touch pct i use small doses and its amazing and by the way acne will start for many once they start fucking with pct as the hormones go nuts

What types of doses do you run?
Do you mantain your gains post cycle?

 

[NYBodyguard]

What types of doses do you run?
Do you mantain your gains post cycle?

with test cyp you keep lots of the gains its the test of choice for people with muscle atrophy because of that

i use to run the big numbers and get the regular sides now i run small amounts and get the same gains with zero sides

pct for small amounts is not needed heck what did they do in the 70's pct always gave me and my friends acne it was funny we would do hcg clomid break out and one shot of test cleard it up

with low doses sex drive is great all around on and off

some have to stop and think about the huge amounts of test they take is it really giving them more gains then a smaller amount

 

[halfcenturian]

with test cyp you keep lots of the gains its the test of choice for people with muscle atrophy because of that

i use to run the big numbers and get the regular sides now i run small amounts and get the same gains with zero sides

pct for small amounts is not needed heck what did they do in the 70's pct always gave me and my friends acne it was funny we would do hcg clomid break out and one shot of test cleard it up

with low doses sex drive is great all around on and off

some have to stop and think about the huge amounts of test they take is it really giving them more gains then a smaller amount

Only thing negative about Var, is that it can fuck up lipids, like the rest of this shit. Take Fish oil, Flax oil, statin drugs (Lipitor) is you can get it. Do blood work E90days. WORST is lowered HDL, attracts plaque like a magnet. So just take HDL supps like Fish, Flax, EV Olive oil. check BW.lipids often.
I have never had 1 oral give me as much strength, with so few sides as Var.
alitle bit of an appetite suppressor and sleep depriver. I rate it a 9.

 

[tin2]

i didnt like anavar.. got caught up in the hype.. orals just dont feel clean in me like test only.. It gave me mad anxiety and headaches .. but then again some ppl it works good..