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Competition Cycle Critique

HotYngSwngr

HotYngSwngr

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I have decided to compete in 07 and amd working on bulking up to compete as a middleweight/lt heavy in July. I am currently 35 yrs old, 5'9", 185 lbs @7%BF. I have a close friend who is a national competitior who has put together my diet and cycles. Along with a diet that averages close to 3 oz. of protien/lb, here is the first cycle that I have been recomended to take:

Wks 1-2
Sust 250 - 500mg
Deca 200 - 200mg

Wks 3-4
Sust 250 - 750mg
Deca 200 - 300mg

Wk 5
Sust 250 - 1000mg
Deca 200 - 300mg

Wk 6
Sust 250 - 500mg
Deca 200 - 200mg

Wks 8-9
HCG 2500IU tue, wed, Thurs

I will be taking Femera eod during and have Nolvadex on hand just in case. This is my fifth cycle spanning about 4 years. Future cycles will include Cyp, Tren, T3, Hgh, and Whinny, but I do not yet have details. All gear coming from a compunding pharmacy, so I KNOW the quality is good. Let me know what y'all think.
 
I have always read that it is a waste to prymaid your steroid dosages. Did you mean to say 3 oz. of protein per pound? Hope you mean 3 grams per pound of your bodyweight. Depending on the food you eat the protein in 3 oz will be different (chicken compared to hamburger).

Are you gyno sensitve, just wondering because you are planning on taking Femera at relatively low to moderate dosages. You need to run your bulker longer than 6 weeks. By week 3 you are just starting to notice a difference. I would throw in some dbol to help give you a quick jumpstart.

For pct, add some clomid or nolvadex along with your hcg.

What are you looking at for a cutter. If you are really trying to win the show, than you can't have a long layoff between drugs. How many weeks are you planning on not taking anything.
 
i dont know bro...seriously...that cycle doesnt look anything special to me....now oral kickstart....no gh or igf....all you got is deca and sust and it seems like you are gonna bloat pretty hard...and the cycle is really short...i would be surprized if you really keep that much off this cycle to be honest...but good luck man....im sure the boys on here could put together a way tighter cycle than that...just my opinion
 
I'd recommend the following cycle:

week 1 - 4 Dbol @ 60 mg ED
week 1 - 12 Sus @ 750 mg/week
week 1 - 10 Deca 400 mg /week
week 8 - 12 Winstrol @ 50 mg ED

AIFM throughout. If prone to prolactin sides then use also dostinex

PCT: AIFM, Clomid and HCG
 
With 600mg of deca I think if he's prone to it he'll get "Deca Dick". Usually to avoid "Deca Dick" the test has to be around double the deca
 
Anyway

I think AhMadKooL has posted a better cycle for you, and yes, no need to ramp your gear.


And you will gain better at 300 grams of protein, regardless of the oz number.
 
From the sounds of that cycle advice given to you, I'd say your friend doesnt know a whole lot about what he is doing, and believe me I know a few "national competitors" that look like shit, and have no clue what they are talking about. If his recommended cycle looks like this, the other advice he is giving you might not be the best either.
 
Sorry for the mistake...I did mean 3 gms/lb of protien...please excuse me, it was late. My concern with this cycle was the brevity...I was considering streaching it out to 8 weeks. He is already taling about another cycle w/ Hgh to closely follow this one, just not sure on how long the layoff. I will be talking with him today and will try to get more info out of him...
 
Those long esters will really start showing you gains right about the time you come off. Pyramiding is a joke - does no good. In the old days they used to taper down because they did no PCT.

1-12 Sust 750mg / week
1-10 Deca 400mg/ Week
1-4 D-Bol 30mg ED

Run and AI, - HCG/Nolva/Clomid PCT. Now there is a real cycle.
 
I agree with Black Sheep. I would recommend using test and deca for 12 weeks and using D-Bol for 8-10 weeks at 50 mgs/day.
 
HotYngSwngr said:
What would be the problem with several short cycles? My receptors are REAL fresh for I haven't juiced in over a year...
Click to expand...

Receptors cannot be "fresh". That's a myth. If you want to do shorter cycles then use shorter esters. Use prop instead of sust. I don't believe in short cycles. The longer you keep the level of androgens elevated the more you will grow.
 
OK...there has been a correction...

Wks 1-2
Sust 250 - 500mg
Deca 200 - 200mg

Wks 3-4
Sust 250 - 750mg
Deca 200 - 300mg

Wk 5
Sust 250 - 1000mg
Deca 200 - 300mg

Wk 6 AND 7
Sust 250 - 500mg
Deca 200 - 200mg

Wks 8-9
HCG 2500IU tue, wed, Thurs

Then four weeks clean til the start of the next cycle. He is not sure what the next cycle will be til he sees how I rect to this one. All he knows for sure is that it will include Gh at 2iu/day.

Still sounds bad?
 
i would def do a 10-14 week dbol/test/deca cycle with about 3ius hGH a day and during post cycle (2 months after cycle) i would increase the hGH to 5ius and add IGF at 100mcgs a day and of course your clomid, nolva, and hcg....and then run right into a Prop/tren/var cycle..... total of about 6-8 months
 
Dude, you added one extra week and your cycle still looks bad. Did you not hear us recommend an oral to help jumpstart you. No reason for prymading your dosages. Stick with 500, 750 or 1000 of Test and 300 or 400 of Deca.
 
Week 1-4 Dbol 30-40mgs
Week 1-12 Sustanon 500-750 mgs
Week 1-10 Deca 300-400 mgs
Week 14 HCG and Clomid

Week 17-26 Test. Prop 100mgs eod
Week 17-28 Masteron 400mgs per week
Week 22-28 Winstrol 100mgs eod

Other guys probably have better cycles, but this would take you up to your contest in July (figured about 7 months X 4 = 28 weeks).

Throw in some fat burners, GH and you should be good.
 
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