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clomid question

belka

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I just need some advice on when i should start my clomid after i complete my cycle. I am finishing up a 10 week cycle. 500mgs of sustanon a week. I read that you should start it 3 weeks after your last injection. On the other hand my buddy who's a personal trainer for 10 years and has done many cycle's say's that i need to start it right away. He said that i'll be ok doing 50mgs a day for 20 days. I don't know what to do. I just want to keep as much gain's as possible without crashing. Please help fella's
 
Lord no. You need to start no later than a week after, I believe with sus you can start in three days after the last shot, but don't wait longer than a week. Check Jenetics PCT sticky on the PCT board for some awsome advice on PCT.
 
Your trainer is wrong...start the Clomid 3 weeks after. Testosterone decanoate is the longest acting constituent in Sustanon, greatly extending its release duration. The release time with decanoate compounds is listed to be as long as one month.

Am I missing something here????????
 
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No, start it 4-5 days after. Sustanon has a week half-life I believe, meaning that your body is going to be testless at that point. Waiting 2 weeks after is dum, if I'm correct. Haven't used sust in years so I can't be sure though...
 
i go by the school of 21 days after your last inject....start at 200mg first day..then 100mg then 50 ed for 3weeks........i beleive thats what genetics pct post says also..think thats where i got it from....nolva and hcg aswell....
 
Either all you guys are wrong, except jrc04444, or I'm missing something here. Using Clomid while Sustanon is still in your system, causing superphysiological test levels, is a complete waste. You need to wait until your base line endogenous levels are reached...or a few days prior to that point. And even then, if you "boys" aren't ready to do business, it will still be a waste.
 
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Here's my list for half lifes.....

Oral steroids Drug Active half-life
Anadrol / Anapolan50 (oxymetholone) 8 to 9 hours
Anavar (oxandrolone) 9 hours
Dianabol (methandrostenolone, methandienone) 4.5 to 6 hours
Methyltestosterone 4 days
Winstrol (stanozolol)
(tablets or depot taken orally) 9 hours

Depot steroids Drug Active half-life
Deca-durabolin (Nandrolone decanate) 14 days
Equipoise 14 days
Finaject (trenbolone acetate) 3 days
Primobolan (methenolone enanthate) 10.5 days
Sustanon or Omnadren 15 to 18 days
Testosterone Cypionate 12 days
Testosterone Enanthate 10.5 days
Testosterone Propionate 4.5 days
Testosterone Suspension 1 day
Winstrol (stanozolol) 1 day

Steroid esters Drug Active half-life
Formate 1.5 days
Acetate 3 days
Propionate 2 days
Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
Butyrate 6 days
Valerate 7.5 days
Hexanoate 9 days
Caproate 9 days
Isocaproate 9 days
Heptanoate 10.5 days
Enanthate 10.5 days
Octanoate 12 days
Cypionate 12 days
Nonanoate 13.5 days
Decanoate 15 days
Undecanoate 16.5 days

Ancillaries Drug Active half-life
Arimidex 3 days
Clenbuterol 1.5 days
Clomid 5 days
Cytadren 6 hours
Ephedrine 6 hours
T3 10 hours
 
shamrock11 said:
Half lives don't mean shit just check jenetics PCT post and see what he says. He has started the same thing I am telling him. Start 7 to 10 days after last shot reguardless of long acting esters.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376177

Check out this link. It will tell you all you need to know about PCT.

OK, I checked out the link again and it does say that PCT should be started 5-10 days after. I guess the reasoning is that LH will gradually increase as the androgen level diminishes. I can see where this might make some sense, but, the PCT described assumes the use of HCG in all cases mentioned. I have a difficult time believing that Clomid administration 5 days after a Sustanon injection is going to have any affect at all on LH.

It's interesting to note that Jenetic 's PCT is the only method I've ever heard of that says to start PCT that soon after long acting esters.
 
ive run all my pct 21 days after my last inject....and it works for me....and most other on EF aswell....this is the first Ive ever heard of 5 days starting pct with a long lasting esther like sust.....but to each his own...HOLLA!
 
wtf??? don't tell me 3 days after because of the prop in it?? c'mon brother!!!!

shamrock11 said:
Lord no. You need to start no later than a week after, I believe with sus you can start in three days after the last shot, but don't wait longer than a week. Check Jenetics PCT sticky on the PCT board for some awsome advice on PCT.
 
hi i have some dbol - its my first ever course (im 18) and i will be starting on 15 mg/day going up to 40mg/day ino the 8th week. i also have some clomid which i am told to take twice a week throughout the course. do i need pct? is this course ok for a first? much chances of getting bad acne? thanks
 
shamrock11 said:
Half lives don't mean shit just check jenetics PCT post and see what he says. He has started the same thing I am telling him. Start 7 to 10 days after last shot reguardless of long acting esters.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376177

Check out this link. It will tell you all you need to know about PCT.

If have lifes don't mean shit, then go shoot a 1 gram of sustanon and get your test levels measured 7-10 days after. Garuaunteed they are still way way too high to even think about PCT.
 
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