Clomid during bridging.

[MaxIntense]

I have been doing prop/winny for 8wks then continue prop for another 6 wks. Now I want to bridge with either primo or anavar until my next cycle starts (maybe in 6 wks). I can see that my balls are shrinking. When should I use clomid?

 

[1Banshee]

I bridged my last cycle with Clomid, Primobolan and Proviron. In your case the prop should be clear of your system in matter of days after your last shot. I would wait until the fourth day after your last shot and begin Clomid as follows:
Day 1 - 300mg
Day 2-14 - 100mg
Day 14 - 21 - 50mg

After day 14 I would begin the Primobolan and Proviron. The Primo should be at 200 - 300mg pw, so as not to further suppress HPTA. This is the way I have done it in the past with great results. By the end of the third week I was within "normal" range as far as test.

** As a side note you will see I use Proviron. Proviron is a great anti-e, and will save you from any kind of androgen crash post cycle. Proviron improves my mood and maintain / increases sex drive!! I use 50mg pd during a "bridge"

 

[MaxIntense]

I forgot to tell you that I have started primo 300mg already. Now should end it all and wait for a week to start the clomid and bridge after 14 days?

 

[1Banshee]

Hmmm, I only allow the 2 weeks of straight Clomid therapy to begin the "natural" recovery process. I am not sure if you start Primo immediately after the last shot of test, how your recovery will go??? I would have to believe with your HPTA shutdown (as it will be from the test cycle you described), the Primo would further slow or even stop the recovery process.. I know there is alot of information that seems to say Primo in low doses 200-300mg will not substantially effect (or not at all) HPTA, but if it is already shutdown then would it start recovery sensing the introduction of the Primo??? ANYONE?????

 

[1Banshee]

Ok, here are some other thread I dug up, where other bro's seem to think Primo or anavar immediately following a test cycle is fine. I do not neccesarily agree but its good to get all the opinions you can, before you form your own...

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=41800&highlight=bridging

Heres another good one with a good chart:

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=40357&highlight=bridging

There are lots more do a search for bridging...

 

[MaxIntense]

Thanks Banshee!

I think I'll start clomid/proviron after a week from my last prop shot and continue on with primo at the same time.

 

[TxLonghorn]

Ok, the deal with bridgeing is this, yes ox and primo don't suppress your hpta that much. But, if you already have your hpta suppressed, they will not let your body recover.

So, you want to get off the primo, do the clomid, and be reasonable sure that your 'balls are back online.' Otherwise, you would be wasting clomid, and further suppressing your hpta for however long you were going to do the primo. And if that runs into (*I think*) week 14 or so, it will take awhile for your hpta to come back. And that would defeat the whole purpose of a bridge.

 

[MaxIntense]

Thanks bro,

I'll go with your advise and stop primo. Will start on clomid one week after for 2-3 weeks, then I'll bridge with anavar or primo.

 

[1Banshee]

Thanks Tx, for clearing this up!!!!