clen without ketotifen?

[Rich_d]

How long can I cycle clen/eca (2weeks/2weeks) without taking ketotifen. I don't know where to get it from. Could someone tell me where to get it from please. If its illegal, ignore.
But really the only reason I'm asking the original q is because I can't find any ketotifen, so input on whether I can or not cycle for 6 weeks for example and also where to get it from would be helpful.

Thanks

 

[Euriskan]

I haven't taken it w/ketotifen, but heard it also makes you hungry and tired? You could also use small doses oral Yohimbine HCL to extend your cycle length to 5-6 weeks. Take the first two weeks to get used to clen, than add the yohimbine. Just be careful, start low and move up because this combination can really rev you up.

 

[Rich_d]

Cheers euriskan. When you and others say run for 6 weeks do you mean constantly because when I say 6 weeks i mean this:
2 week clen
2 week ECA
2week clen

So if you mean 6 weeks straight, I should be fine doing it this way without keto, no??

Cheers for replies

 

[DepressiveJuice]

you can take clen 2days off, 2days on or the preferred way which is 2weeks on, 2weeks off. you can take clen for a month with the keto. the reason you cant find keto is because its illegal

 

[Euriskan]

My understanding of ketotifen is that is was intended for people wanting to use clen on a bulking cycle. It would allow them run it longer and for appetite. You can stick to the standard 2wk on/off cycle. But from reading your post it seemed like you wanted to run as long as possible. In which case Yohimbine HCL will help to run clen for longer periods. http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catclen.htm I have tried it before, started out the first few days taking just clen and starting low to let the sides subside i.e. shaky hands, headaches and etc. Ran another 2 weeks with just clen, than another 2 weeks clen/y. I was on clen for about a month straight.

I wouldn't recommend this unless you are comfortable with clen/y. Also supplement with potassium, taurine to help with cramping. I didn't know about taurine at the time and would get nightly cramps no matter how much water I drank. Also look into melatonin for help sleeping. It sucks having insomnia and cramping all night long.