clen/T3

[ricorico]

next couple weeks im planning on doing some clen/T3....heres the stack, clen 120mcgs a day,
T3- day 1-3 (25)
day 4-6 (37.5)
day 7-13(50)
day 14-15 (37.5)
day 16-18 (25)
im bout 6' 3" ish and around 220ish and about 8-9 percent...never done T3 before and i just wanted to get down to around 6-7....lemme know ur thoughts bros...thanks

 

[Mr.X]

start with this thread
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=453769

 

[ricorico]

start with this thread
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=453769

i didint wanna go that high with the T3 bc its my first time and i also dont wanna lose alot of muscle...maybe ill go up to 75 instead of 50 tho

 

[toxicsambo]

next couple weeks im planning on doing some clen/T3....heres the stack, clen 120mcgs a day,
T3- day 1-3 (25)
day 4-6 (37.5)
day 7-13(50)
day 14-15 (37.5)
day 16-18 (25)
im bout 6' 3" ish and around 220ish and about 8-9 percent...never done T3 before and i just wanted to get down to around 6-7....lemme know ur thoughts bros...thanks

120mcgs of Clen when youve never done clen before might shock you. I wouldnt go that high. I would start at 40-60 mcgs/day and see how you feel, then slightly increase it accordingly. As far as the T3, you can take 50 mcgs a day right off the bat. Going over 100mcgs and doing it longer than 6 weeks are points of caution, but 50mcgs for 3-4 weeks, no prob IMHO.

I personally will never do clen anymore. I actually get better results with an ECA stack. But your bf can definitely go down to 6-7%. Protein, water, Cardio, and maybe a little proviron to lower your estro level. Youll be good bro.

 

[immortalis]

sounds to me like he has done Clen before, just not the T3 with it.

 

[ricorico]

sounds to me like he has done Clen before, just not the T3 with it.

yep.....done clen before....T3 is a new one for me tho

 

[brewers]

120mcgs of Clen when youve never done clen before might shock you. I wouldnt go that high. I would start at 40-60 mcgs/day and see how you feel, then slightly increase it accordingly. As far as the T3, you can take 50 mcgs a day right off the bat. Going over 100mcgs and doing it longer than 6 weeks are points of caution, but 50mcgs for 3-4 weeks, no prob IMHO.

I personally will never do clen anymore. I actually get better results with an ECA stack. But your bf can definitely go down to 6-7%. Protein, water, Cardio, and maybe a little proviron to lower your estro level. Youll be good bro.

correct me if im wrong, but proviron will not reduce estro levels. it is not an anti-e it just binds to the aromatase enzyme and frees up more test. it is anabolic because of that but it shouldn't reduce estrogen levels.

 

[brewers]

BTW, i also would use some type of anabolic. be it test or even something mild like anavar. if your diet is in check (which at your bf i believe it is), anavar/clen/t3 will be great to keep the mass you have and drop fat.

 

[ricorico]

BTW, i also would use some type of anabolic. be it test or even something mild like anavar. if your diet is in check (which at your bf i believe it is), anavar/clen/t3 will be great to keep the mass you have and drop fat.

yea, im also on anavar, low dose test, and tren enth

 

[brewers]

im going to go on anavar/clen/t3 at the beginning of the month. woulda already been on but all i can get is 5mg anavar right now...don't wanna pop 15 pills a day! lol

 

[ricorico]

yea....tahtd be a pain in the arse....im chowin down on some 10mg ANCPHARM caps...bout to switch to BD tho...

 

[toxicsambo]

correct me if im wrong, but proviron will not reduce estro levels. it is not an anti-e it just binds to the aromatase enzyme and frees up more test. it is anabolic because of that but it shouldn't reduce estrogen levels.

It absolutely reduces circulating estrogen levels by downregulating the estrogen receptors, and that makes it desirable during a cutting cycle with t3/clen stack because Proviron will then create a lypolytic (fat burning) environment.

It's not anabolic in anyway. You can take 150mg ed and it wont build a pound of muscle. Along with some armidex or aromasin and a solid diet and cardio program, he should get shredded w/out a problem.

 

[brewers]

yea....tahtd be a pain in the arse....im chowin down on some 10mg ANCPHARM caps...bout to switch to BD tho...

even 10mg wouldn't be as bad as 5mg. i could handle 5 tabs...

 

[brewers]

It absolutely reduces circulating estrogen levels by downregulating the estrogen receptors, and that makes it desirable during a cutting cycle with t3/clen stack because Proviron will then create a lypolytic (fat burning) environment.

It's not anabolic in anyway. You can take 150mg ed and it wont build a pound of muscle. Along with some armidex or aromasin and a solid diet and cardio program, he should get shredded w/out a problem.

i see. this would also explain how it can help with bloat while on long esters.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

if you are going to use clen
reccomend at least 3-5 grams taurine, though people often take up to 10g
potassium and magnesium are also reccomended
as well as AT least 2 grams of ALCAR (protect cardiac tissue).


ALCAR

Taurine


Taurine for cramping and energy depletion.
Alcar because its protective of cardiac (heart) tissue, which clen places strain on and may cause apoptosis (cell death) in at moderate to high doses (1mcg/kg- at least in animal models).

potassium for cramping and performance
magnesium for cramping, heart function, and strength

(as a side note- clen depletes taurine, potassium and magnesium)

 

[macrophage69alpha]

yea, im also on anavar, low dose test, and tren enth

was going to say that IMO its unwise to run t3, even with clen, at any significant dose without AAS. or a dead on diet/training program.. its just too catabolic

 

[dzulboy]

was going to say that IMO its unwise to run t3, even with clen, at any significant dose without AAS. or a dead on diet/training program.. its just too catabolic

i agree esp with clen

you bebetter off eating redline tabs

 

[ricorico]

hmmm...alright...then im going no higher than 50 with the T3 and im only gonna use it for 2 weeks, the last thing i need is to melt away my hard earned muscle

 

[brewers]

go up to 50 on your first cycle and use it opposite of clen. i would start with the clen and then move to t3. so ramp the clen and then when you go off clen start ramping the t3. you can do this so 8 weeks so you use clen for a total of 4 and t3 a total of 4 with anavar for 8 weeks at 30-50mg ed for 8-10 weeks. you will preserve your hard earned muscle and burn the fat.