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clen or epehdra?

Ive only tried Clen. I got up to 200mgs and was honestly handling it pretty well. I started at 20mgs and i thought I was going to die, however the next day it wasnt nearly as bad, and as I ramped it up over the next 2 weeks i handled the sides very well.

I went from 220 down to 213 in those 2 weeks on Clen/Sesapure/Glucorell/L-Taurine and using YES. I ate fairly clean, but the second week I cheated like 3 days heh. My wife will be the death of me :p

All in all, I enjoyed my run on Clen and will be using it again, however i DEFINITELY recommend using L-taurine with it because the cramps without it are rediculas.
 
mm107 said:
Just got off 2 weeks clen at highest dose of 140mcg. Got good shakes, felt coked up, but my abs become visible. Not shreddedup, but they are coming in. Was planning on taking ECA. But im giving my receptors time off because the clen felt strong.


Way to go man.... Your next Clen cycle will be just as effective, and will yeild more fat loss as long as you take breaks with no Beta 2 drugs in between Clen cycles..... Good call, you'll thank yourself later for it....

rizz
 
Prizz said:
Way to go man.... Your next Clen cycle will be just as effective, and will yeild more fat loss as long as you take breaks with no Beta 2 drugs in between Clen cycles..... Good call, you'll thank yourself later for it....

rizz

Yea, i read that they both affect Beta 2, so i figured the body needs some time off from everything. No need to beat myself up.

Thanks Rizz K to you.
 
mm107 said:
Yea, i read that they both affect Beta 2, so i figured the body needs some time off from everything. No need to beat myself up.

Thanks Rizz K to you.


Yeah word..... I've been beating this point home for weeks, but doesn't seem like anyone is listening to me..... It's been driven home that ECA is supposed to be used on the off weeks of Clen, but that is counterproductive..... I've been doing the 2 weeks on 2 weeks off cycles for 6 weeks now.... Been using Stimulant X in between Clen cycles, and everytime I start the Clen again, it's like I never used it before, and it shreds me more and more...... I'm just wondering when it will stop shredding me up, I hope it doesnt..... Shooting K back at ya bro....

rizz
 
is it true only ECA stack around twice a week or it becomes ineffective. Also should you cycle ephedra like clen, and how many mgs of ephedra a day is good for fat loss
 
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