changes in my next cycle , please help

[Victor]

I was planning a cycle like this :

EQ - week 1-9 - 400 mg / week ( frontloading at 800 mg first 2 weeks )
fina at 50 mg ED - week 3-11
winny at 50 mg ED - week 3-11

clomid 3 days after my last shot of fina and winny


BUT I am actually starting to think that it is time for me to try some test , I never used test in my life ( all I used was HGH , EQ , winny , primo , anavar )

so I wanna replace the EQ , with TEST PROP .

my questions are :

1- HOW much arimidex I would NEED TO keep ALL THE WATER, BLOAT OFF !?!?!? is there a way to keep it all out ?? or some bloat will occur no matter what ?? keep in mind that I am not prone to gyno ....so I think my body doesn't aromatize too much ...

2- what dosage would be ok?? good ?? 250 mg a week ??

3- what is the best brand of test prop ?? testoviron depot by shering is a good one ??


thanks all


btw- my goals are to lose 6 lbs of fat and gain 12 lbs of solid muscle .


Victor

 

[ultragainz]

test prop at 100-150mgs eod is fine....you can add test prop in the cycle and make the winny in the first weeks and fina in the last and keep running test...

 

[ultragainz]

and it depends on how much test you take to see how much arimidex you need....i always take 1mgs ed...if you cant do ed for most of the cycle do it eod....

 

[ultragainz]

and the water on test prop is very low if takin at 100-150mgs eod..

 

[Victor]

humm so 100 mg test prop EOD , would be like 300 mg week of test prop

ok , so I need 1 mg of arimidex a day to keep all the water retention out ??

what about the test brands ??

also , how this looks ?


test prop - weeks 1 -10 - 300 mg / week
fina weeks 2-9 - 50 mg ED
winny weeks 2-9 - 50 mg ED




Victor

 

[ultragainz]

no it would be 400mgs a week...mon,wed,fri,sun,tue and so on....

 

[Victor]

oh yeah , my bad

how the cycle looks now ?



Victor

 

[ultragainz]

looks fine but why not keep the EQ in?...hit the winny in the first weeks then fina after winny....or just keep it your way..test/winny/fina is a great cycle too

 

[BigAndy69]

Actually, both of you guys aren't very good at math. It would be 350mg a week.

And Victor, how do you know that you are not gyno prone, you said you've never used Test.

1mg of Arimidex ED is overkill, too little estrogen can actually hurt you. It effects your bones of all things in a very negative way.

0.5mg ED is more than enough, 0.25mg ED would be fine as well. Testoviron is a great brand, I'm guessing you wouldn't have any fakes in Brazil.

Why not just run a regular classic Test/Fina/Winny cycle.

W1-8: Prop 100mg Eod: 350mg a week
W3-8: Fina: 50mg ED, 350mg a week
W3-8 or week 5-8: Winny 50mg ED; 350mg a week

Arimidex at 0.25mg-0.5mg ED

Btw, the 12 lbs of lbm gain is very possible with this being your first with test, but the 6lbs of fat loss seems a little difficult. (Also considering your history)

Aim for a higher caloric inatke, clean, 3500-4000 calories, I think you'll be happy with the results.

 

[ultragainz]

iam saying if you shot 100mgs of prop eod its 400mgs/week

 

[BigAndy69]

iam saying if you shot 100mgs of prop eod its 400mgs/week

It's not.

Eod means you will be shooting 3 times on one week, and 4 times on the next week.

Mon/Weds/Fri/Sun

That's week one.

Following the same pattern, Week 2 would be

Tues/Thurs/Sat

It's very simple math.

 

[Victor]

Actually, both of you guys aren't very good at math. It would be 350mg a week.

And Victor, how do you know that you are not gyno prone, you said you've never used Test.

1mg of Arimidex ED is overkill, too little estrogen can actually hurt you. It effects your bones of all things in a very negative way.

0.5mg ED is more than enough, 0.25mg ED would be fine as well. Testoviron is a great brand, I'm guessing you wouldn't have any fakes in Brazil.

Why not just run a regular classic Test/Fina/Winny cycle.

W1-8: Prop 100mg Eod: 350mg a week
W3-8: Fina: 50mg ED, 350mg a week
W3-8 or week 5-8: Winny 50mg ED; 350mg a week

Arimidex at 0.25mg-0.5mg ED

Btw, the 12 lbs of lbm gain is very possible with this being your first with test, but the 6lbs of fat loss seems a little difficult. (Also considering your history)

Aim for a higher caloric inatke, clean, 3500-4000 calories, I think you'll be happy with the results.

>>>thanks for the help bro , I think I am not prone to gyno cause the only time I had it was when I used nor andro and andro , and even so ,vit e got rid of my gyno .....right now I don't have any gyno ....but even if I am prone to gyno , the arimidex should take care of it .....

ok , so how about this cycle ?


W1-10: Prop 100mg Eod: 350mg a week
W3-10: Fina: 50mg ED, 350mg a week
W3-10 or week 5-8: Winny 50mg ED; 350mg a week


9 weeks on test and 7 weeks on fina and winny


also , should I keep using arimidex after I finish the cycle ?? for how long ?


Victor

 

[Victor]

DO you guys think that using 0.5 mg arimidex ED would KEEP ALL WATER retention OUT ???

I mean , I will not hold ANY water .....I am really scared about the bloat look




Victor

 

[BigAndy69]

Looks like a good cycle, but I would reduce the use of winny to only 5-6 weeks.

0.5mg ED of arimidex is sufficient to keep most of the bloat off.(I hesitate to say all of the bloat)

Use the arimidex a couple of days before your cycle, and use it until the end of clomid therapy.