Can Someone Please Formulate A Winstrol Only Cycle For Me?

[JUICESEEKER]

Ok guys i need you help. I am in the process of planning a winstrol only cycle, and i will like some experience bros to help me formulate one. I would really be grateful for your help guys. And i will even give karma. I will use winstrol only.

 

[lawnsaver]

Thats not to hard??

50-100mg ED for 6-8 weeks
Use ALA and Milk thistle for liver protectant.
Add creatine in the mix and Glucosamine/Chondriton as your joints are going to hurt!

 

[Kronos]

Winstrol® only is good.

I've done this every summer (sometimes twice) since...and loved it. If you can afford it.
------WINSTROL------CLOMID
WK1----100MG ED
WK2-----75MG ED
WK3-----75MG ED
WK4-----50MG ED
WK5-----50MG ED
WK6-----50MG ED
WK7-----50MG EOD
WK8-----25MG EOD---100MG ED
WK9-----------------50MG ED
WK10----------------50MG ED

If you are on a budget change the ED to EOD for the Winstrol®. You will still get damn good results and stay lean as a reptile.
***Be sure to take the advice above about your joints and liver if you stick with the ED injections.

 

[lawnsaver]

Why the taper??

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

50mgs/day for 8 weeks.
1-3 grams/day of ALA
High protein

Solid strength/lean mass gains

 

[Kronos]

Habit

Why the taper??

It's just been a habit of mine when working with AAS that have short half-lives (sp) to taper just as I always do with any oral. Hell, I even taper at the end of a sust cycle. I honestly have no elaborate theories but I have found that the advice given to me by the old guys in the game has NEVER been wrong. Always worked great for me.

 

[Kronos]

Just one more point

Why the taper??

Like I said above I have no elaborate theory, but I don't really think one is needed here, common sense rules most times. Say you are taking any drug; let's say it's for pain at a certain level for say 8weeks, are you going to just snatch the drug away after a # of days? A # of days doesn't mean diddly, what your body feels does, and I prefer to treat that as the main concern. Do I want it to crash? Or be let down easy? It's simple, so I taper everything that's possible to taper.

 

[lawnsaver]

Tapering only prolongs your recovery. Clomid cant work until the androgen has left the body. If you come off correctly, there is no need to taper. Tapering is a thing of the past.

 

[Kronos]

A thing of the past?

Tapering only prolongs your recovery. Clomid cant work until the androgen has left the body. If you come off correctly, there is no need to taper. Tapering is a thing of the past.

No, tapering lets your body adjust to the new androgen environment you are putting it in, instead of crashing and losing your gains (jeez where do these ideas come from?). If you're saying that coming off correctly is just stopping the exogenous hormone abruptly, I'd have to say that's a perfect way to lose all your gains and get depressed at the same time. No thanks.

Tapering is a thing of the past.

Tell that to any pharmacist that knows his stuff. You taper on and taper off so as not to tax the body too much. Not rocket science, common sense.

Hey peace bro, you go ahead and use the "new" methods and I'll stick to the ones that have proven themselves.

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

LOL,Kronos,you are way off base here,and no offense,but the average pharmacist doesn't know jack about recovery regimentation from A/S usage.You are either shut down or you aren't.There are no 'in-betweens'.A very slight taper(over the course of the last week to ten days) on an oral-only cycle might be okay,but really isn't completely necessary.A taper on injectible compounds with more than a few day half life is completely unnecessary,and as lawnsaver stated counterproductive to recovery of GnRH/LH re-initialization.All you are doing is keeping your body androgenically suppressed with piddly dosages that have no baring on anabolic growth.

 

[lawnsaver]

Thanks Huck, you always come through when I need scientific backing!

 

[Fonz]

50mgs/day for 8 weeks.
1-3 grams/day of ALA
High protein

Solid strength/lean mass gains

How about:

50mg Winstrol for 16 weeks w/ 3g ALA/day.

It sucks living with your parents. Have to go the pill
route.

Fonz

 

[caiza]

fonz,do you like eq with winny?

 

[drrman]

eq and winny is my favorite, add some tren and its even better!!!

 

[serge]

Ok guys i need you help. I am in the process of planning a winstrol only cycle, and i will like some experience bros to help me formulate one. I would really be grateful for your help guys. And i will even give karma. I will use winstrol only.

what the hell is there to formulate, take 50-100mg/ed i would stick to higher end of the dose since its the only drug you will be running

 

[Kronos]

LOL back at ya

LOL,Kronos,you are way off base here,and no offense,but the average pharmacist doesn't know jack about recovery regimentation from A/S usage.You are either shut down or you aren't.There are no 'in-betweens'.A very slight taper(over the course of the last week to ten days) on an oral-only cycle might be okay,but really isn't completely necessary.A taper on injectible compounds with more than a few day half life is completely unnecessary,and as lawnsaver stated counterproductive to recovery of GnRH/LH re-initialization.All you are doing is keeping your body androgenically suppressed with piddly dosages that have no baring on anabolic growth.

First off the average pharmacist doesn't have to know anything about AAS usage (I know, 90% of them don't know sh*t) . All he needs is common sense and his education. AAS are drugs, and like any other drug, coming off abruptly is bad for your system and plain stupid.

Anyway, the taper is part of the cycle! How can it hinder recovery? That's like saying the last 50mg ed is hindering recovery.LOL Not logical Ms Ohura!

I have one thing and one thing only that trumps your opinion, but it still trumps your opinion; *the differences in the way I feel when using your type course and mine*, that's all I have to know, period.

I have tried a couple of "generic board" courses without tapering and I didn't like the way I felt when coming off.

Went back to what I was told by the guys (that I can see and judge how they look and feel) using a taper and felt great when coming off. no crash, no immediate strength loss, no general depression, and no hardcore desire to be back on again right away. Magic? No, common sense.

Just goes to show that when you find something that works, stick with it. All the theory and chemical abbreviations in the world don't mean diddly, it is real world application (how your body feels and reacts) that matters.

Peace
T.

 

[caiza]

so winny by itself you can run up to 16 weeks?

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Re: LOL back at ya

First off the average pharmacist doesn't have to know anything about AAS usage (I know, 90% of them don't know sh*t) . All he needs is common sense and his education. AAS are drugs, and like any other drug, coming off abruptly is bad for your system and plain stupid.

Anyway, the taper is part of the cycle! How can it hinder recovery? That's like saying the last 50mg ed is hindering recovery.LOL Not logical Ms Ohura!

I have one thing and one thing only that trumps your opinion, but it still trumps your opinion; *the differences in the way I feel when using your type course and mine*, that's all I have to know, period.

I have tried a couple of "generic board" courses without tapering and I didn't like the way I felt when coming off.

Went back to what I was told by the guys (that I can see and judge how they look and feel) using a taper and felt great when coming off. no crash, no immediate strength loss, no general depression, and no hardcore desire to be back on again right away. Magic? No, common sense.

Just goes to show that when you find something that works, stick with it. All the theory and chemical abbreviations in the world don't mean diddly, it is real world application (how your body feels and reacts) that matters.

Peace
T.

Very well,walk in the dinosaur ages as you please,lol...

 

[Fonz]

Re: LOL back at ya

First off the average pharmacist doesn't have to know anything about AAS usage (I know, 90% of them don't know sh*t) . All he needs is common sense and his education. AAS are drugs, and like any other drug, coming off abruptly is bad for your system and plain stupid.

Anyway, the taper is part of the cycle! How can it hinder recovery? That's like saying the last 50mg ed is hindering recovery.LOL Not logical Ms Ohura!

I have one thing and one thing only that trumps your opinion, but it still trumps your opinion; *the differences in the way I feel when using your type course and mine*, that's all I have to know, period.

I have tried a couple of "generic board" courses without tapering and I didn't like the way I felt when coming off.

Went back to what I was told by the guys (that I can see and judge how they look and feel) using a taper and felt great when coming off. no crash, no immediate strength loss, no general depression, and no hardcore desire to be back on again right away. Magic? No, common sense.

Just goes to show that when you find something that works, stick with it. All the theory and chemical abbreviations in the world don't mean diddly, it is real world application (how your body feels and reacts) that matters.

Peace
T.

Wake up and join the 21st Century.......

Tapering ORALS=STUPID

50mg GIVES THE SAME inhibition as 10,20,30 etc....

So, tapering ORALS is POINTLESS as the half-life is
VERY SHORT.

Winstrol's is approx. 8 hours so after 2-3 days, concentrations
are down to almost zero.

NO MATTER if its 20,50,80,100.

You get LESS active mg of AAS BY TAPERING than by normal
AAS use with EXACTLY the SAME INHIBITION and EXACTLY
the SAME POST-CYCLE RECOVERY SCENARIO!!!!!

Now tell me, does that seem smart to you?

Fonz

 

[Kronos]

Re: Re: LOL back at ya

Very well,walk in the dinosaur ages as you please,lol...

Thats your response ? LOL Have you ever even tried what you're putting down? I doubt it. And yes, no HELL yes I am honored to walk with the dinos (and man they look all ripped and reptilian like dinos), the dinos I'm talking about are now active and retired pro wrestlers and *real* competition bodybuilders.

The guys who share their info from personal experience instead of some ridiculous "board belief system" that is a load. No slam on you bro, I just think you should have more of an open mind. I've tried both yours and mine. If my way let's me keep more gains why would you slam it? Why not try it and see?

 

[Kronos]

Re: Re: LOL back at ya

Wake up and join the 21st Century.......

Tapering ORALS=STUPID

50mg GIVES THE SAME inhibition as 10,20,30 etc....

So, tapering ORALS is POINTLESS as the half-life is
VERY SHORT.

Winstrol's is approx. 8 hours so after 2-3 days, concentrations
are down to almost zero.

NO MATTER if its 20,50,80,100.

You get LESS active mg of AAS BY TAPERING than by normal
AAS use with EXACTLY the SAME INHIBITION and EXACTLY
the SAME POST-CYCLE RECOVERY SCENARIO!!!!!

Now tell me, does that seem smart to you?

Fonz

50mg GIVES THE SAME inhibition as 10,20,30 etc....WHo says? I doubt that is correct. I realize that you're a moderator on this board but it means nothing if you don't backup your statments of "fact" with hard evidence or legit studies. Please post them.

What I'm saying is that I feel,perform and look better AFTER a cycle because I taper it a little at the end. Jeez what's so hard to understand? It's not exactly rocket science. Just common sense.

I assume that you run a sustanon cycle like this:
750mg per week for 8 weeks then start clomid 3 weeks after the last inj. What could be more silly?
Peace
T.

 

[JUICESEEKER]

Ok, while everybody is flaming and not answering my question. I want to know if i can take the winny at 50mgs eod, instead of ed for 8 wks, as this will be more realisic financially? And still see good results?

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

No.Activity life of around 9 hours,so you will zero active substance on your off days.

 

[JUICESEEKER]

No.Activity life of around 9 hours,so you will zero active substance on your off days.

OK. So them will you tell me how much bottles will i need to complete an 8 wk cycle and how much will i end of spending on winny on average?

 

[Kronos]

juiceseeker

Yes of course you can, and you will see results, it is the *level* of results that is the variable here. I had thought you were looking for a hardcore kind of cycle with win only.

50mg eod of winstrol only will give results,and you're likely to keep most of them after. And I haven't flamed anyone here. People can disagree without hating each other (I hope)

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

LMAO!!!Kronos,please just stop posting my man...

Juiceseeker-Are you using liquid or tablets?

 

[JUICESEEKER]

LMAO!!!Kronos,please just stop posting my man...

Juiceseeker-Are you using liquid or tablets?

I will be using liquid, since the pills are not as effective and are more liver toxic.

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Well,I'll be assuming you are using 50mg/ml strength.You will therefore need the equivelant of 56ml to complete an 8 week cycle.If using a 100mg/ml strength(such as ttokkyo's),you can use half an ml daily,and you would only need 28mls total(so three 10ml bottles would suffice).

 

[Golfer18--old]

Kronos there is no way around it. You are fucking DUMB. Steroids users aren't like crack addicts where they have to lower the dose to come off. You want it out your system ASAP to start clomid and get back to normal. So your saying "Yeah lets take 10mg of winstrol the last week" That won't do jack shit but keep you from getting back to normal.



Stop trying to argue. Your point sucks as does your education in steroids.

 

[JUICESEEKER]

BUMP! I need more opinions on the 50mg eod winny cycle.

 

[Mike P.T.]

BUMP! I need more opinions on the 50mg eod winny cycle.

Will you see results?? Possible. Mostly at the beginning though while natural test levels are still high and that's if you are very responsive to low doses with lighter drugs Not a good idea though imo because winny is pretty low in the androgenic department and at such a low dose, all you will be doing is suppressing natural test levels with such a low dose and the winny will not be able to make up for the anabolic and androgenic loss. 50/100mg ed imo will produce much better results.

I myself respond pretty well to lower doses. I have done a winny only cycle at 100mg eod for several weeks while extreme dieting and maintained all my muscle and lost a great deal of bodyfat. Next spring im thinking of doing a winny only cycle again to start off with and use 100mg ed for 6-8 weeks. Good luck bro.