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can someone help me get a good first cycle

RugbyPlayer21

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Im 21, 6ft and 12 stone.
I want to go on my first cycle and would like to gain more strength and weight and better musscel tone.
I don't like injectables and only want to take orals.
Can anyone advise me on a good cycle with the least risks/side effects.
I would accept less gains if there were less side effects.
I really need some help!

PS How much Anavar would i need for a full cycle and roughly how much would that cost.

Thanks for any help!
 
you won't get to many responses but here goes. anavar is VERY expensive. anavar is best run for long periods of time around 30-40 mg per day for 10-20 weeks. lots of money there. I have had a few guys do winny only cycles and if you are new to the game then it might work well for you. but remeber you won't keep all the gains. injectables are the way to go but you said you won't do them but they are a lot easier and safer in the long run. good luck
 
Why the hell won't you use injectables???? God, you can get away with one shot a week for ten weeks (Ten freaking shots, thats all!!). Don't be a pussy bro, i would use this as your first cycle:

Week 1-10 Test @ 250-500mg/week
Week 6-12/13 Winny @ 35-50mg/day

Or something very similar. Bro, i think you should really rethink your stance on not using injectables-because its going to be the best way to get your results and maintain them!!
 
I have found the best way to get a guy to pop his cherry is to be shown an injection first. it is one thing to look at the injection web sites but it helped a lot when my friend did his injection in front of me and then it was a lot easier to do mine.
 
Dude, I used to be the same as you with injectibles. When getting needles as the doctor I used to faint. I just plain out hated them. You get over it pretty quick. Much easier on your liver than orals. Do yourself a favor and get yourself some EQ and Test. Like Tech One says, inject a few times per week, or take pills all day every day. I personally usually do both, but let me tell you. I dont hesitate with needles at all anymore, and dosing with orals around the clock is a damn pain in the ass.

Cheers,
Mavy
 
Injections are much better big time!! Orals are known to kind of "bloat" you up with water kind of like Creatine. Injections are the best way to gain mass, retain it, and gives you strength that wont disappear dramatically like with orals.
 
If you are going to bulk, I would use dbol....I would start of taking 10mg/day every day for about 2 weeks, then 15 or 20mg/day for the remainder of the cycle and then taper.

Nick
 
Instead of getting on a soap box to convince the dude to do injectables why not actually help him?

There ARE some REAL issues with injectables that make them very difficult for some people. Give the guy a break. I know some areas where getting gear is easier than needles! Also, finding someone to give your the shot may be an issue. Maybe just storing a vial instead of pills is the problem - who knows.

Based upon what the guy really asked for, Anavar would be the best choice probably.
 
I probably will use needles for my second cycle but for my first i just wana try tablets.

Anavar is a bit pricy.

I know its a bit much to ask but could you's lads find me a good first time tablet cycle with low side effects!
 
I think im gona go with either D-Bol or Winstrol
and take Clomid after to bring my testostrone back to normal

What do yous think. Im still not to sure.
Is there any tablets i can take safely that will give me slight gains.
 
SofaGeorge - i agree with you bro. whats going to make you get over needles the second time around ? if u want weight gains winstrol is a horrible choice and if u want a safe oral dbol is a horrible choice. your options are very limited with orals only. just do transdermal fina i guess,that would work OK
 
Dont be a pussy it doesnt hurt and if u shoot in ur pecs or ur delts u can use a really small needle. grab ur balls and take the poke.
 
DaddyX said:
SofaGeorge - i agree with you bro. whats going to make you get over needles the second time around ? if u want weight gains winstrol is a horrible choice and if u want a safe oral dbol is a horrible choice. your options are very limited with orals only. just do transdermal fina i guess,that would work OK

Daddy resume in few words a true. You (Rugby)want gains without side effects but with only orals. Orals produce most side effects that others, because apart of "normal" side effects they are liver toxics and without exception of Dbol and Anadrol 50, others orals no produce considerable gains. You keep few options. You should be try to use injectables or forget side effects concern.
 
I agree with Tri. Running all orals, is a bad idea. Especially if you start stacking them. If its hard to come by injectibles, or needles like Riker says, I would just hold off until you can get some. If theres a will, theres a way. Dont rush your cycle until you have your full arsenal ready to go.

Now Rugby, if you are not going to take advice from what everyone is mentioning, I would recommend holding off from doing a cycle until you research a little more.

If you are absolutely sold that you are going to do an oral only cycle, you could try something like this (I still dont really recommend this ... just if you are going to go ahead anyways, no matter what we try to tell you).

Wk 1-3
Dbol: 25 mgs/day

Wk 3-6
Winny: 30mgs/day

Wk 6-10
Anavar: 40 mgs/day

Make sure that you keep the winny in the middle as winny has anti progesterone effects which produces more hardness during the cycle and weight gain. Drink lots of water, ala, and all the liver protectants that you can get your hands on (do some research for these). These will be very important for the cycle. Monitor yourself closely for any abnormal pains.

Good luck,

Hope you werent a huge drinker before this and that you have a healthy liver bro. Let us know how you make out, if you do decide to do orals only.

Stay Safe
Mavy
 
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