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1st of all, you should do enough research about this stuff to be able to answer these questions for yourself. Do yourself a favor don't start anything untill you've done your homework. That being said, this is what I would do:
1-12 EQ 600mg/wk
1-6 Winny 50mg/ed
7-12 clen 100mcg/ed (2 days on / 2 days off) (ramp up to 100 then ramp back down)
start pct 3 weeks after last eq shot. Check out the pct sticky for info on that.
Can't remember where I read this, but your typical eca stack will raise your metobolic rate by around 3%. Clen raises your metobolic rate by around 10%
Meat_head
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First off I consider myself fairly knowledgable in regards to AS I was just looking for other opinions and results people got. I am trying to get even more info than I have already gathered. I was wondering about the PCT because I have never done this cycle and I know these AS have low androgenic effects. If you do your research you would see that a 2 on 2 off cycle of clen is useless because of the half-life of clen.
Anthony Starks
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I agree with Apex on the Eq and winny dose. Are you sure you don't want to wait on the clen untill after your cycle is over? I don't like taking weight loss drugs while on cycle.
WTF is with the attitudes lately?? U basically asked the people on the board to plan ur cycle for you......something u should be able to do yourself. Putting that aside I still took the time to give you my advise on what I would do. Then, instead of just saying thanks, you give me attitude and tell me I need to do more research.
Well, just so you know, "there have been studies that show the trick to using clenbuterol successfully seems to be avoidin receptor downgrade which occurs rapidly with the use of this beta agonist. In fact, one clinical study show receptor downgrade as much as 50% is experienced after using clenbuterol for as little as 18 days consecutively. This same study showed that attenuation can be avoided if clenbuterol is taken in a 2 day on 2 day off pattern. Athletes using clenbuterol in this manner have reported much greater results than those who use the product continualy."
I'm sure that you have something to prove that the 1.5 day half life of clen would make this method useless.......so let's hear it.
First of all do NOT start with a 600mg/week dose of EQ. Some get very bad sides from it. Start with 300mgs/Week.
Ramp up to a max dose of 100mcg of Clen, that would be damn near the max dose. With Clen you start slow 20mcg day one, 40mcg day two and so forth till you reach your tolerance. Once you've established your tolerance you use it in a two week on one week off fashion. Check out the PCT forum for for info regarding coming down from the EQ.
Ramp up to a max dose of 100mcg of Clen, that would be damn near the max dose. With Clen you start slow 20mcg day one, 40mcg day two and so forth till you reach your tolerance. Once you've established your tolerance you use it in a two week on one week off fashion. Check out the PCT forum for for info regarding coming down from the EQ.
genarr3 said:
I think 300mg of EQ would be a waste of time.....I think 400mg/wk of EQ is a waste of time. That's really a matter of opinion though. I can however say that I've have very rarely seen/heard of anyone have serious sides from EQ.
Not sure what your point is about 100mcg of clen. Yes that would be the max dose that I would recommend, I know you need to see how much your body can take. That's why I said to ramp up to 100 instead of jumping right in with both feet.
As for how to take the clen, I've only used it 2 days on & 2 days off (2 cycles), but I had great results with it that way. However, I have read/heard a lot of people doing the way you suggested with good results so I can't really argue with that.
genarr3 said:
I gotta admit, I totally forgot about the chance for anxiety with EQ. I do know a few guys who claim that this happens to them. I wouldn't call them severe cases, but it has happend.
I still don't think that the gains from 300mg/wk would be worth it. But like I said, that's just my opinion
goldenthree
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I am very curious why so many people think winny is not very androgenic. I have always thought of it as being very androgenic because its a DHT derivative, and DHT is around 700% as androgenic as test.
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