Can someone advise me???

[testoman79]

Jenetic i have read up on some of your posts and seems you realy know your stuff i hope you will be able to help me with your knowledge.

I am 25 and have been lifting for 8 years 5 serious early last year i went on a course of 200mg Deca 250mg Sust per week for 8 weeks i did not use any pct and had no probs i then stayed clean for about 3 months and had another cycle of 200mg Deca and 500mg Sust per week for 8 weeks then nothing until 11th week when i took 1500iu hcg x3 mon/wed/fri and had no probs in Nov last year which was 2 weeks after coming of the hcg as above i had to take a sperm test as me and my partner have been trying for a baby the results came back aroun 1.9 million sperm per mil and i was told it should be more like 20 million.

last week i had to go for another sperm test and have been told that this time there is nothing there practically no sperm at all.

I have now started a fresh cycle 1st week
400mg Deca per week
500mg Sust per week
50mg Proviron Per day
I will take the above for 8 weeks then was going to take hcg 3 weeks after last injection 1500iu x3 mon/wed/fri
have i caused myself infertility or is there anything you can tell me to help i have not had any erection probs at all post cycle ect.
Is there anything you can tell me that might help or is there something i should be taking post cycle any info would be much appreciated bro as this is really worrying me.

 

[Catch Wrestler]

I'm not Jenetec,but I can answer you.Firstly if you want to try for a baby,you need to be off any gear for a good six months(if not more),and you definatly need to use a good pct also.This is a must if you want children.Steroids do cause infertility,but it is only temporary.The better your pct is,the more chance you've got of reversing the infertility.

 

[testoman79]

Thanks for the advise Catch its much appreciated as its becoming a worry and in the meantime if anyone has any more info let me know.

 

[SwolK]

the minimum you should have in a single ejaculation in 20 million, normal is closer to 40 million, so 1.9 mill is really low. but you know that. Definitely use complete PCT after all cycles. seacrh and read about it. clomid, nolv ect... maybe someone will outline it for you

 

[testoman79]

Cheers Swolk as any info is really helpfull at this stage and you are right about the 40 million.

and in the meantime if any of you bros can share any info i would be much obliged.

 

[slat1]

Use HCG and clomid.. get off your cycle... your girl has a reason to hate AAS now. Then again.. then fun is in trying!

 

[testoman79]

Cheers Slat1 have you got any recommended dosages of hgc & clomid and for how long also could the gear give me a sperm result as low as this???

 

[NaturalOnlyAtBirth]

Bro if you stopped cycle right now you should wait about 2-3 weeks to start PCT because your first inject will still be in your system for awhile. Run clomid at 300mg the first day, 150 the second, 100 the thirds, then continuing with 50mg for at least 4-5 weeks. That should help you recover.

Good luck with the baby, I actually got my girl pregnant about 19 weeks ago. I had just ended a test/deca/dbol cycle myself. So dont worry it can be done.

 

[maldorf]

I was actually on a cycle when we conceived our first child.

 

[Makavelli]

Deca is known to reduce sperm production the most. It's actually been tested as a male birth control. That's how suppressive it is. Stay away from deca.

 

[shamrock11]

Clomid 300mg first day, 200mg second and 100mg days 3-12 and 50mg days 13-21.
Nolva 40mg first two weeks and 20mg the last.
HCG 1500 iu three days per week for three weeks.
This should get you back. Start clomid and hcg at the same time and then start nolva the next week. This will give you four weeks of PCT.

 

[gettnlarge01]

do you know if you had a low sperm count b4 any cycles? one of my training partners got a girl pregnant when we were in like wk12 of our last cycle. may have been a problem for you start with? lots of luck with the baby making

 

[testoman79]

Just wanted to say thanks for all the advise and help guys its much appreciated i have my PCT sorted now so unless someone has anything different to add to the hCG Clomin + Nolva pct

thanks for the help!!...

 

[DIVISION]

Jenetic i have read up on some of your posts and seems you realy know your stuff i hope you will be able to help me with your knowledge.

Not to be an asshole......but I'm an asshole.

If you want Jenetic's personal advice, WHY DON'T YOU PM HIM?

IT WORKS!

He is the PCT guru......and he could probably help you out with your specific question.



DIV