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Can Deca alone give results?

Deca alone works very well in many lifters (guys here have 2 gripes):

1) suppression of natural test can cause episodes of limp dick with deca as nandrolone doesn't effectively fill the gap by itself (never happened to me but some report it)

2) Progesterone sides (although more rare - esp at lower dosages - 400mg and under - are extremely difficult to combat without exotic substances (some say winstrol works but that is debatable - the abortion pill is an alternative but a bit scary)
 
I've done it alone a few times. I get much better results with Deca alone then any other steroid. It's my favorite.
 
my first cycle: 200 deca/ sus 250 for 8 weeks. loved it. just add some test with yours. you'll love it too.
 
bitch tits

nandrolone decanoate has been researched by science for years and have found that deca alone is a large contributer to bitch tits.
because there is nothing produced in your natural body to bloock the molecule from attaching to the receptors in your body.
by takeing stanzolol (winny) it blocks the receptors that would normally let the fatty molecule attach.
loaded
 
Re: bitch tits

loadedguns said:
nandrolone decanoate has been researched by science for years and have found that deca alone is a large contributer to bitch tits.
because there is nothing produced in your natural body to bloock the molecule from attaching to the receptors in your body.
by takeing stanzolol (winny) it blocks the receptors that would normally let the fatty molecule attach.
loaded
"deca alone is a large contributer" - What exactly does that mean? People get gyno from test, Dianabol, Anadrol, and probably some other stuff I can't think of at the moment. Are you saying it contributes more? Prove it.

Can you back up the Winstrol comments with some actual scientific proof? Cause as far as I know there is none.
 
do the research

your saying you dont know that simple fact and you take steroids????????
quit acting like a fucking retard and read about what your takeing.... if you can.
 
Hell yes. At 300-400 mg with a solid diet yes it can. Most BB I know use Deca alone (cause they dont know better), but I would throw some test, even 200 mg/week would be enough inorder to maintain your sex drive.
 
Trivia from the 70s and 80s... low dose (200mg week) deca only cycles were common and were even used long term by some pros. Some guys stayed on low dose deca only all year.
 
Re: do the research

loadedguns said:
your saying you dont know that simple fact and you take steroids????????
quit acting like a fucking retard and read about what your takeing.... if you can.
Actually I do. The reason your post jumped out at me is because it seems to be written as medical fact. I don't claim to have seen every steroid study ever written, so there is a chance I could be wrong, but as far as I know Winstrol is only "thought" to combat progesterone related gyno, there is no proof. No studies.

As far as Deca being a major contributor to gyno, I certainly wouldn't claim it doesn't cause gyno, of course it can. But as far as it standing out and causing more gyno then other steroids, you would have no way of know that unless some type of survey was done. Once again, maybe one was done and I just haven't seen it. That's why I asked you how you knew this, or thought it.

No reason for the name calling, don't take it personal. Like I said, your post seemed to be written as medical fact, just wondering if you had any.
 
deca is the shit,,the only thing holding me back putting it in every cycle is fina which i happen to like a little more
 
peace

the name calling was uncalled for,
someone asked a simple question and i gave a simple response based on facts (in general).
i have an endless amount of info to learn about as.
but i do research on a spicific anabolic before i take it.
deca being one of them.
i said deca alone is a contributer to gyno and i gave the reason why... he asked about deca..
loaded
 
Deca alone at about 2mg per pound of body weight will give you some decent gains But since it is almost purely anabolic it does not provide enough androgen to keep Mr. happy, happy. It is also this lack of androgen that can cause you to feel tired and somewhat "down".
Use a lttle test or proviron with it bro. Try 50-100mg of proviron per day or 200 of test per week.

Also Bill Roberts , Bill llewellyn, myself and many others will tell you that nandrolone shuts down HPTA longer than any other roid and it doesn't matter what ester it is in. Bill Lewellyn has a report that states that nandrolone shuts you down at the level of the testes...desensitizing the testes to LH.

It is a mild hormone when it comes to many sides and it is a decent muscle builder but the shut down is difficult to overcome for some men. Be sure to use clomid for at least 4 weeks post Deca and start it three weeks after your last shot at 300mg on day one and then 50 mg per day to follow .

Oh about gyno........it is VERY rare and I mean VERY RARE for Deac at 400mg per week to cause gyno.

Also it is important to front load this slow acting ester. If you decide on 400mg per week then do a front load of 7-800 on day one. Then follow up with 200mg on day 4 . Continue to inject 200mg biweekly for the very best blood levels.
 
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