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Can anybody tell me about Deca ???

Rosso

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Hey there guys. I' ve been trying to find out more about Deca as a Deca only cycle, but can't find out much in detail about it. I hope some of u here can help me.

1) Some roids like Sustanon has a relatively lower risk of gyno . How about Deca ? Does it cause lots of water rentention too?

2) How do I do a deca only cycle ? 400mg/week ? How is Nolvadex used in the cycle ? Do i need to take it constantly or only when i get symptoms of gyno ? If I do, what are the doses?

3) How do I use clomid after a cycle ? Immediately after the last shot? What are the doses like ?

4) Sus250/week x 8 weeks vs Deca 400mg/week x 8 weeks. Which is better ?

I hope that someone out there can help me. Thanks.
 
Dont expect too much from a deca only cycle. You will make gains, but they will be slow and gradual. You can run the deca for long periods of time (12+ weeks if need be), but why not throw in something like test for mass or winny for a leaner, harder gain. As far as the Nolva goes, some lucky pricks don't need it no matter how much they take, whilst others need it if they even look at an amp of test. Have some handy just in case, but only use it if you start getting symptoms as it does hinder gains somewhat.
 
Rosso said:

1) Some roids like Sustanon has a relatively lower risk of gyno . How about Deca ? Does it cause lots of water rentention too?

i dont know who told you sustanon has a low risk of gyno, but
that is not necessarily information i would trust. with deca there is a risk of gyno, but it results from progesterone, unlike sustanon. i.e. all the arimidex and nolvadex in the world wont help you. your best bet against progesterone gyno would be adding winny to the cycle. at 400mg of deca i doubt you would see much water retention.

2) How do I do a deca only cycle ? 400mg/week ? How is Nolvadex used in the cycle ? Do i need to take it constantly or only when i get symptoms of gyno ? If I do, what are the doses?

depending on how you react to deca, 400mg should give some good results. see above for nolvadex issues.

3) How do I use clomid after a cycle ? Immediately after the last shot? What are the doses like ?
clomid is most important when doing a deca only cycle. for most drugs clomid is run like this: 300mg on the first day, 100mg for the next 10 days, and 50mg for the next 10. with deca only however, it would be wise to add an extra 10 days at 50mg. start 3 weeks after your last injection.

4) Sus250/week x 8 weeks vs Deca 400mg/week x 8 weeks. Which is better ?

choosing between those 2, i would say that sust might be a better bet. deca is a great drug, but running it alone can cause your dick to pack up its balls and leave. most would recommend adding test at a low dose to prevent this, but there are many that have had success with deca only cycles, genarr, i believe, has done a few. if you decide to go with deca only, it might be worth it to go to 10 weeks, of course, im not sure if youve already got what youre going to use or have limited funds or whatever.

hope this helps bro.

oh and by the way all of this could have been found with a few searches.
 
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trial0r said:

clomid is most important when doing a deca only cycle. for most drugs clomid is run like this: 300mg on the first day, 100mg for the next 10 days, and 50mg for the next 10. with deca only however, it would be wise to add an extra 10 days at 50mg. start 3 weeks after your first injection.

I'm still learning, but isn't clomid started 3 weeks after your .last shot
 
hr21361 said:
Dont expect too much from a deca only cycle.

fuck that, i was 125 when i started using gear. my first cycle was deca only, brovel at that. i was on for only 6 weeks and i think i gained about 17lbs. it was one of the best cycles ever. i was very uneducated when i did it and took it in a pyramyd style dosage form. if he took 400mg for 10 weeks i think he would have good results, gains would not be that fast but a lot faster than if he trained naturaly!!!!! throw in some d-bol at the first four weeks and i think you would love it, the d-bol sould get things started a lot faster and the deca would carry you out after the d-bol is over.
 
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Deca-Durabolin is a brand name of Organon Company, the manu-facturer of the drug containing the substance nandrolone decanoate. Although nandrolone decanoate is still contained in many generic compounds, almost every athlete connects this substance with Deca--Durabolin. Most common are the administrations of 5 0 mg/ml and 100 mg/ml. Deca-Durabolin is the most widespread and most commonly used injectable steroid. Deca's large popularity can be attributed to its numerous possible applications and, for its mostly positive results. Deca-Durabolin causes the muscle cell to store more nitrogen than it re-leases so that a positive nitrogen balance is achieved. A positive ni-trogen balance is synonymous with muscle growth since the muscle cell, in this phase, assimilates (accumulates) a larger amount of pro-tein than usual. The same manufacturer, however, points out on the package insert that a positive nitrogen balance and the protein--building effect that accompany it will occur only if enough calories and proteins are supplied. One should know this since, otherwise, satisfying results with Deca cannot be obtained. The highly ana-bolic effect of Deca-Durabolin is linked to a moderately androgenic component, so that a good gain in muscle mass and strength is obtained. At the same time, most athletes notice considerable water retention which, no doubt, is not as distinct as that with injectable testosterones but which in high doses can also cause a smooth and watery appearance. Since Deca also stores more water in the connective tissues, it can temporarily case or even cure existing pain in joints. This is especially good for those athletes who complain about pain in the shoulder, elbow, and knee; they can often enjoy pain-free workouts during treatment with Deca-Durabolin. Athletes use Deca, depending on their needs, for muscle buildup and in preparation for a competition.

Deca is suitable, even above average, to develop muscle mass since it promotes the protein synthesis and simultaneously leads to water retention. The optimal dose for this purpose lies between 200 and 600 mg/week. Scientific research has shown that best results can be obtained by the intake of 2-mg/pound body weight. Those who take a dose of less than 200 mg/week will usually feel only a very light anabolic effect which, however, increases with a higher dosage. Most male athletes experience good re-sults by taking 400 mg/week. Steroid novices usually need only 200 mg/week. Deca works very well for muscle buildup when combined with Dianabol and Testosterone. The famous Dianabol/ Deca stack results in a a fast and strong gain in muscle mass. Most athletes usually take 15-40 mg Dianabol/day and 200-400 mg Deca/week. Even faster results can be achieved with 400 mg Deca/week and 500 mg 5ustanon 250/week. Athletes report an enormous gain in strength and muscle mass when taking 400 mg Deca/week, 500 mg Sustanon 250/week, and 30 mg Dianabol/day. Deca is a good basic steroid which, for muscle buildup, can be combined with many other steroids.

A conversion into estrogen, that means an aromatizing process, is possible with Deca-Durabolin but occurs at a lower rate than ex: testosterone. During competi-tions with doping tests Deca must not be taken since the metabo-lites in the body can be proven in a urine analysis up to 18 months later. The risk of potential water retention and aromatizing to estro-gen can be successfully prevented by combining the use of Proviron with Nolvadex. A preparatory stack often observed in competing athletes includes 400 mg/week Deca-Durabolin, 50 mg/day Winstrol, 228 mg/week Parabolan, and 25 mg/day Oxandrolone.

Although the side effects with Deca are relatively low with dosages of 400 mg/week, androgenic-caused side effects can occur. Most problems manifest themselves in high blood pressure and a pro-longed time for blood clotting, which can cause frequent nasal bleed-ing and prolonged bleeding of cuts, as well as increased production of the sebaceous gland and occasional acne. Some athletes also re-port headaches and sexual overstimulation. When very high dos-ages are taken over a prolonged period, spermatogenesis can be in-hibited in men, i.e. the testes produce less testosterone. The reason is that Deca-Durabolin, like almost all steroids, inhibits the release of gonadotropins from the hypophysis.

Women with a dosage of up to 100 mg/week usually experience no major problems with Deca. At higher dosages androgenic-caused virilization symptoms can occur, including deep voice (irreversible), increased growth of body hair, acne, increased libido, and possibly clitorihypertrophy. Women who experience disturbance even at a weekly dose of only 50 mg/week of Deca-Durabolin, are often better off taking the earlier-mentioned and faster-acting Durabolin. Unlike the long-acting Deca, when Durabolin is administered once or twice weekly in a dosage of 50 mg, no concentration of undesired amounts of androgens occur. Since most female athletes get on well with Deca-Durabolin a dose of Deca 50 mg +/week is usually com-bined with Oxandrolone 10 mg +/day Both compounds, when taken in a low dosage, are only slightly androgenic so that masculinizing side effects only rarely occur. Deca, through its increased protein synthesis, also leads to a net muscle gain and Oxandrolone, based on the increased phosphocreatine synthesis, leads to a measurable strength gain with very low water retention. Other variations of administration used by female athletes are Deca and Winstrol tab-lets, as well as Deca and Primobolan S-tablets.

A great disadvantage of Deca-Durabolin is its high price. In the U.S. a 50 mg ampule costs approx. $10 - 12. Deca-Durabolin in strengths of 200 mg/2 ml ampules; usually cost around $30 per ampule. Because of its great popularity and the high demand that goes along with it, there are many fakes of Deca-Durabolin.
 
I suggest you run 400mg deca with sustanon 250 for 10 weeks and weeks 1-4 dbol.
Clomid 3 weeks after your last shot.
Keep nolva on hand incase gyno appears and run Liquidex just to be safe thruout the cycle.
 
Re: Re: Re: Can anybody tell me about Deca ???

Terd said:


I'm still learning, but isn't clomid started 3 weeks after your .last shot
Clomid, when used for purposes of restarting natural test production is always used AFTER steroids are discontinued. When is dependent on the half-life of the drug in question.
 
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