Bulk or cut...Hmmm, tough decission

[joeljuice]

Hi! Havent been posting here for while. So here is little backround:

I have done 2 cycles before, first was Deca 400mg 8 weeks and it was fiasko, i didnt get too good results. Second one was test 500mg 8 weeks and Deca 400mg 8 week and russian prop 50 ed 2 weeks for kick start. Well it was decent cycle, i did gain about 20lbs and got little stenght gains and i have kept allmost all my gains. So i have been bulking very long time and obviosly i have gotten some extra fat too I dunno my bf, but it is too much maybe something like 17-18. I'm 6'0 and weight 210 and have musclemass, but need got rid of that fat. However i dunno should i hit one more BIG mass cycle before cutting. Dammit yesterday i saw my friend for long time he had done same kind mass cycle than me, but with dbol 50mg ed for start and he has passed me on strenght and musclemass! Damn that make me tought that i do dbol too, to catch up him and do the cutting on may.

So here is my options:

mass cycle

test 1000mg week 8 weeks or 750mg, not sure yet
dbol 35-50mg ed 4-6 weeks depending how hard it is to my hair. I guess i get sprirolactone and flutamide for that.

cutting cycle
test 500mg or 750mg week
winstrol 50ed weeks 1-6
anavar 40mg day weeks 7-11 and 20mg for bridging
clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks of whole cycle
efedrine between clen weeks
t3 4 weeks on the middle of the cycle.


So which i should do first, to get rid first my damn fat, or get more mass before it. It is so damn hard to decide, because if i do mass cycle, i will look bloated, but get big and strong, and if do cutting cycle, i will get good look, but my friend is too far from me.

Damn....lol

 

[joeljuice]

Look likeu bro's wont make my decission any easier

 

[Mike P.T.]

its up to you bro. im thinking the same things right now. but u know what? im gonna go with bulking up since its winter. next year i'll start leaning out. it's up to you bro and what you want. ask yourself. dont ask what we think is best

 

[eric88]

bulk. i am 5'9.5 and almost 210lbs and im not satisfied. im bulkin until i reach 230lb.

 

[Rebelrocker]

You should bulk

 

[joeljuice]

yes i know it is upt to me Well i guess i try to get nice 20-30 lbs more and start cutting on april/may to be good shape for summer. Maybe it is best choice, since during winter fat is not that big problem. ANd chirstmas is coming, try to diet there lol

I'm wondering should i add some Eq too to that mass stack. It is 1000mg test or 750 with ew, plus the dbol to start.

so which one?

test 1000mg 8 weeks
dbol35-50 weeks 1-6

Or

test 750mg 8 weeks
eq 400mg 10 weeks
dbol 35-50mg 6 weeks

 

[joeljuice]

You should bulk

Hi finnish bro Well i'm falling on that bulking

 

[Rebelrocker]

i would do the first one,test and dbol are very good together,no need to have eq

 

[joeljuice]

Maybe ure right. Tough Eq would increase appetie and give vascularity, tough it is not the goal in bulking I guess winny will give me enough veins on my cutting cycle spring

 

[GARAGE GORILLA]

I think you should bulk. It's winter time......time to bulk, cut in the spring. I will probably get flamed for my next suggestion but what the fuck. I think your doses for your bulking cycle are too high especially for a 3rd cycle. I am getting ready to do my 5th bulking cycle and I will frontload 800mg of cyp and run 500mg/week for the rest of my cycle and d-bol@30mg/day wks 1-4.....just a thought.

 

[joeljuice]

Garage Gorilla, no flaming ure right. I will increase calories more, so that should do the trick.

I use Sustanon and frontload 2 weeks with 1000mg, then 750mg for 6 weeks. Dbols i will start from 30 and go up little, maybe up to 50 if i dont have problems.

I will start cycle as soon as i get flutamide tabs. Could someone help me there ?

Thanks for the replys.

 

[Maxx Out]

Maybe ure right. Tough Eq would increase appetie and give vascularity, tough it is not the goal in bulking I guess winny will give me enough veins on my cutting cycle spring

Are u kidding! Eq=increased appetite=more calories=more muscle! Am I the only one who see's thi pattern?

How about the eq helping w/solidifying the gains? I say add it! It's been in every one of my cycles since I first used it, I love that shit!

Maxx >>>>>

 

[joeljuice]

Are u kidding! Eq=increased appetite=more calories=more muscle! Am I the only one who see's thi pattern?

How about the eq helping w/solidifying the gains? I say add it! It's been in every one of my cycles since I first used it, I love that shit!

Maxx >>>>>

YEs more calories is more mass! However i got my susts and dbols at weekend and it takes at least few weeks to get eq, and i cant wait I start as soon as i get thta damn FLUTAMIDE!

Oh and i was thinking to use 20mg anavar ed at end of the cycle to keep gains, so i guess i wont need eq necessarely.