*** Bromocriptine *** Vets/Doctors/Anyone Know Something?

[fitnesskid]

I just filled my scrip for bromo this afternoon. Now there's been some arguing on the board over how bromo affects GH production. Does it hinder it? Or, does it boost it? Some say potato and some say po-tot-o? What's the deal? Is it true that high prolactin inhibits GH...???

Also, how well does it combat prolactin? And what sides have you guys experienced? I'm starting at 2.5mg/day...and then after a week bouncing up to 5mg/day...is this common? And is 5mg/day enough to counteract Fina gyno problems (assuming of course that Fina raises prolactin and therefore induces gyno). Let's say I will be giving my steer 50mg of fina EOD...would it be wise/helpful for the steer to have 5mg of bromo ED???

Thoughtz Fellaz??? Thanks in Advance!!!!

 

[fitnesskid]

bump 4 sum more info!!!!!!!!

 

[Trenimator76]

bromo will suppress gh release. Thats why it is used for acromegaly. Im also will be taking bromo after my finacycle. since you ordered it give us updates.

 

[perfectspecimen]

why are you taking it after your fina cycle? i am taking it on my fina cycle like this
1.25mg/eod first 2 weeks
2.5mg/eod next 4 weeks
1.25mg/eod next week

its half life is 50 hours so eod is fine.
you dont want to take it that high, you will have serious sides.

 

[Trenimator76]

why are you taking it after your fina cycle? i am taking it on my fina cycle like this

How was your gains w/ the fina? I didnt wanna touch bromo w/ my cycle because i thought it might mess up w/ my gains due to the supression of the GH. I wanted to take it post cycle to help w/ recovery.

 

[perfectspecimen]

it doesnt affect gh that much. anyway your igf 1 will be way up while on fina.

i gained a solid 15lbs on fina in the past. i wouldnt advise using bromo if not on fina bc then you might get a problem
either use while on fina like i suggested or dont.

 

[fitnesskid]

what dose was too high? mine? I just read a report on the net that said that bromo works differently for different problems. It said that it will bring down GH if the patient is suffering from out-of-control GH production. But if the person has normal GH production then bromo will boost it a little? I'm gonna try and find the report...

I could be wrong, but doesn't bromo (in a normal person) raise GH because it kills prolactin? Aren't prolactin (or maybe progesterone) levels related to GH levels....is there a doctor inn the house???????

 

[fitnesskid]

here's the article...

Here is the article I found the had some good/interesting info on bromo...what do you guys think? And how about a little karma for tracking this one down? Thanks....



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Ergot-derived smart drugs (the benefits of rye fungi)
by Robert Mason Ph.D.


Bromocriptine- the most potent ergot
This semi-synthetic derivative of the ergo group of ergot alkaloids is a dopamine receptor agonist (for those who like precise detail it is a potent D2 agonist but also displays partial action on D1 receptors) and a prolactin inhibitor.

Its first major anti-aging use is the enhancement of dopamine, (a key brain neurotransmitter that undergoes an age-related decline). Past the age of 40 it is estimated that “on-average” the healthy person undergoes a dopamine decline of approximately 13% per decade (Ward, Fowkes & Morgenthaler). Accordingly, some neurologists have stated that “if we all live long enough we shall all become senile.” This is due to the fact that abnormally low levels of dopamine (70% to 80% loss) are then diagnosed as Parkinson’s disease, hence protection and enhancement of the dopamine producing neurons is a key strategy for anti-aging medicine. Not surprisingly then, bromocriptine is used in conjunction with other drugs (such as deprenyl and L-dopa) in the management of Parkinson’s disease, but anti-aging medicine considers its preventative properties too.

Its second major anti-aging use is the inhibition of prolactin, this hormone is one of the few that actually appears to increase with age. Prolactin is produced by the pituitary gland and its release is inhibited by bromocriptine.

Prolactin has been described as a “fat synthesis hormone” because one of its primary functions is to trigger lactation (milk production) and weight gain in pregnancy. In women, bromocriptine has been used to help restore ovulation (the process by which this action occurs is too complex to explain for this small article) but it also helps to reduce serum prolactin levels in men (although the precise role of prolactin in men is unclear).

A further possible need to control age-related prolactin levels is offered by some researchers who believe that prolactin is an immune system suppressant.

Bromocriptine also affects the most famous of all pituitary hormones- growth hormone (GH). Bromocriptine increases growth hormone secretion in individuals with normal growth hormone concentrations, but paradoxically suppresses GH secretion in some patients with acromegaly (a condition of excessive-production of GH). Studies indicate that bromocriptine does not affect the release of any other anterior pituitary hormones.

Due to its dopamine enhancement bromocriptine has even been cited as an aphrodisiac, although little effort has been made to study and confirm this action. There have been several reports of “better controlled” orgasms and “almost orgasms” before the real orgasm occurs. If any countries allow for more medical categories such as “weak orgasm syndrome” or perhaps “clinical sex-drive loss” then dopamine agonists such as bromocriptine are going to receive a lot of attention from the pharmaceutical manufacturers, especially in the wake of Viagra sales.

Another interesting clinical study administered a component of tobacco called DMBA to rats at a level where it is known to be very effective in producing breast cancer. However, rats that had been pretreated with bromocriptine completely avoided any cancer development. Bromocriptine therefore appears to also offer itself as a very potent free radical quencher.

One of the most recent studies indicates that bromocriptine may be a candidate for the treatment of Type-2 diabetes. This is because bromocriptine has been shown to suppress lipogenesis and improve glucose tolerance and insulin resistance.

One animal study suggested that a further action of bromocriptine is to alter CNS (central nervous system) regulating metabolism and as such has another important use in helping to prevent weight gain (this would be in addition to its improvement of diabetic conditions).

 

[LONE_AZ]

Bromo is good post cycle for prolactin related gyno. Excessive Prolactin secretion is a real pain in the ass to get rid of. Sometimes it takes months for the pituitary to slow down. It is also good during a cycle as a preventative measure for those who are prone. Start low and work you way up because it can potentially have some very bothersome side effects.

 

[fitnesskid]

what type of sides?

 

[LONE_AZ]

Bromocriptine: Adverse Reactions


Most of the adverse reactions caused by bromocriptine are dose related. Nausea is very frequent, especially at the beginning of treatment. Vomiting, constipation, orthostatic hypotension, headaches and dizziness are also frequent.

Less frequent are vasospasms in the extremities (particularly in the fingers), Raynaud's syndrome, leg cramps, nasal mucosa swelling (rhinitis?), dryness of the mouth, increase of liver enzymes, insomnia, vivid dreams, hallucinations, psychoses and skin rashes. Isolated cases of dangerous vascular complications (cardiac infarctions, cerebral ischemiae) have also occurred in younger subjects. After long-term treatment some pulmonary infiltrates, pleural effusions and retroperitoneal fibroses have been observed. Long-term treatment (more than two years) is not documented as safe.

 

[Trenimator76]

Excellent post Fitnesskid So It will increase GH. That would be a big plus. I have other information regarding prolactin and how it is so important to control it when on fina/deca. I dont think its the test suppression thats really causing the limpdeca/finadick Here is a link And you guys can do your research on it.

Evaluation and Treatment of Male Sexual Dysfunction - American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists and The American College of Endocrinology - "increased prolactin levels may also cause erectile problems, even in the presence of a normal testosterone level."

Erectile Dysfunction / Impotence - Prostate Health Guide - U. of Maryland Medicine - "Hormonal abnormalities such as increased prolactin (a hormone produced by the anterior pituitary gland), steroid abuse by body-builders, too much or too little thyroid hormone, and hormones administered for prostate cancer may cause impotence. Rarely is low testosterone responsible for impotence"

http://qualitycounts.com/fpprolactin.html