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Brits in central Basra...........

Imnotdutch

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I've been watching this unfold since early this morning.

Brits have been sitting outside Basra for 2 weeks (whilst US troops pushed north). The Desert Rats command was given permission to enter Basra and take it as far as he thought necessary. Many thought this wold be just another recon mission. However, the centre of Basra is now occupied by Brit troops!! Last time I checked the following were involved: Desert Rats, Royal Scots Dragoon Guards, Royal Marine Commandos. 7000 troops in total.

Not a single british life was lost in the process...........a job well done in my opinion.
 
I liked it when they tore down the statue of Hussein, and when they arrested all the Basra secret police members while they were still in their pajamas. Those were good clips.
 
The latest is one wounded brit...........300-400 dead Iraqi militia. Some resistance still exists.

Locals are being very welcoming.......and taking the opportunity to loot (justified by taking back what was taken from them by the government).
 
From what i've read British soldiers are better at interacting with the locals because they have worked as peacekeepers & in Northern Ireland so they are better versed in how to interact with the populus without incurring resentment. Plus the level of anti UK bias isn't nearly as intense as the level of anti US bias in the middle east so there will be less hostility directed at them.

Hopefully UK soldiers will continue to have a large role in winning over the population's support, they would be better at it than US troops.
 
nordstrom said:
I liked it when they tore down the statue of Hussein, and when they arrested all the Basra secret police members while they were still in their pajamas. Those were good clips.

Did you see the big fuckin holes on the statue??

They must've been taking a few shots at it.
 
Thought I'd post this before hitting the sack...........BBc news report.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2921091.stm

UK troops storm Basra


Marines of 40 Commando advance into the city
British troops have bombarded the headquarters of Iraq's Baath party as the massive coalition assault moves into the centre of Basra.
The thrust into the southern Iraq city on Sunday will deliver the "liberation of Basra", British forces say.

Television reports put troops from the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards and the Black Watch at the heart of Iraq's second city.

In the south west of the city, Royal Marine Commandos spearheaded a second wave of attacks on Sunday afternoon.

The elite forces began their arm of the pincer movement with heavy shelling at about 1530 local time (1330 BST).


British Challenger 2 caught up in regular Basra traffic

"This is the liberation of Basra we've been planning for," British forces spokesman Group Captain Al Lockwood told BBC News Online.

The first major assault began at dawn.

The 7th Armoured Brigade, the Desert Rats, stormed the city with several thousand troops and hundreds of tanks in a bid to take control.

Three units, the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards, Royal Fusiliers and the Black Watch, advanced into the city, meeting only "isolated pockets" of resistance, correspondents say. The airport has been secured.

The dramatic push follows days of caution while the mood of Iraq's second biggest city and its defences were assessed.

It remains unclear how many Iraqi militia remain in Basra.

British troops say they are being welcomed by civilians waving, cheering and sounding the horns of their cars.

But Iraqis wearing civilian clothes have also thrown a bomb into a building where marines were taking cover.

STORMING OF BASRA



Map: Military operations
The assault on Basra
'Little sign of opposition'

Captain Roger McMillan of the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards told BBC News no casualties had been suffered and added this was a vindication of the British policy of "advancing slowly and softly as opposed to hitting the door from day one".

The situation was becoming "increasingly benign", he added.

"We have pushed on the door of Basra and it opened.

"We are going to be staying."

Heavy fighting erupted as the sun rose at 0200 GMT.

British tanks and American Cobra helicopter gunships repeatedly pounded a factory complex as Iraqi militiamen responded with machinegun and sniper fire.


A para inspects the quarters of an Iraqi army mortar team

While the fighting raged, looters descended on the building to steal whatever they could lay their hands on.

Then, just after dawn, RAF Chinook helicopters flew in reinforcements of Royal Marines.

Group Capt Lockwood said the resistance encountered had been "generally disorganised, with no real command and control".

And it appeared Basra's Baath party leadership had been eliminated or fled, he added.

HUMAN COST OF WAR
US: 71 dead (including 16 in non-combat accidents, 4 to 'friendly fire', 2 under investigation), 7 missing
UK: 27 dead (including 16 in non-combat accidents, 5 to 'friendly fire')
Iraq: At least 1200 civilian deaths, military deaths unknown
*Figures from each government

A suspected suicide bomber handed himself over to British troops in the suburbs the city.

The man, who was in his late 40s or early 50s, walked up to gates of a Royal Marines' base carrying five hand grenades.

He claimed to have been behind at least two attacks on the base in recent days but had had enough, an officer said.

One of several people leaving Basra told BBC News there had been very little resistance to the British advance.

"A lot of fighters have run away.

"There was a little bit of shell fire - but now it is quiet."

The troops have been ordered not to destroy or desecrate Iraqi flags or war memorials.

Only symbols of the Iraqi regime are deemed justifiable targets.


A would-be suicide bomber hands himself in to Royal Marines
On Sunday US Central Command spokesman Jim Wilkinson said the bodies of bodyguards had been found after British forces attacked a Baath party building in which Ali Hassan al-Majid,was believed to be hiding.

The Iraqi commander, known as "Chemical Ali", is in charge of the south of the country

The BBC's Caroline Wyatt, with the British troops, also said sources had suggested there was "good reason" to think he may have been killed, "and that would be very, very significant".

Thousands of people reportedly cheered when the building was destroyed
 
i think they will do a good job peacekeeping, the brits seem to be making good efforts, enough to win over a majority of Basra

its the minority im worried about...long term peacekeeping will be hard, and require a lot of troops....troops britain can ill afford to keep over there long term. unless america plans to (and if they do the political fallout will be devastating) i can see international peacekeepers being necessary
 
it has taken them 2 weeks to conquer the city of basrah. we have taken over the whole country in that time. why are they so slow.
 
THE SWAMI said:
it has taken them 2 weeks to conquer the city of basrah. we have taken over the whole country in that time. why are they so slow.

lmfao
 
they have done much better then the U.S has but they also arent doing things as large scale. either way fuck the British and I think its time to give back Northern Ireland
 
I liked it when they tore down the statue of Hussein, and when they arrested all the Basra secret police members while they were still in their pajamas. Those were good clips.

Yes, I saw that! I want one to! For historical reasons of course! Dont worry I'm not some Bath Party Worshipper! Lets see I own some of Hitler's DNA! A chunk of the Berlin wall! Stalin's pubic hair! And a used JFK condom! Now I will search Ebay for a 50 foot statue of Saddam and his Koran written in his blood! Now don't worry Im not trying to create a "SUPER LEADER" like Cobra Commander did in GI JOE!
 
The british know what they are doing. They have been military bad-asses since the dawn of time.
 
WizKid25 said:
Congrats to the brits. Nice to see they all lived too. This isn't a war easy enough for just hte US imo.


the u.s. is very capable of doing this alone. as donald rumsfield put it......."going to war without france is like going hunting without an accordian". we only have 100k troops inside iraq. thats out of 300k deployed. wehre is massive gunz at?
 
How long has the US been sitting outside of Baghdad?

THE SWAMI said:
it has taken them 2 weeks to conquer the city of basrah. we have taken over the whole country in that time. why are they so slow.
 
As a brit I would like to be the first to say fuck you. Have you actually thought through what you wrte about NI?

Firstly, you condemn all brits even though many of us would give our right arms for peace in Ireland.

Secondly, the situation in NI is the result of a fuck up in the distant past.You can not blame the current brit government for it. Also, what do you think would happen if brit forces withdrew right now? I'll tell you........absolutely chaos as various parties start killing each other all over again. There is a fragile peace agreement in place........that is what the current governmnt has achieved. IT WANTS PEACE.

What exactly would you do with the people in Northern Ireland who considier themselves british?

Oh and how about I draw a parallel........if britain should give back NI to Ireland then should't all US citizens who arent of native american descent also get the hell out so natives could have their country back?

Damn you need to learn to think things through......N.I is a complicated situation with no clean answers. So like I said, on behalf of all my felow brits, GO FUCK YOURSELF.

The Canadian Oak said:
they have done much better then the U.S has but they also arent doing things as large scale. either way fuck the British and I think its time to give back Northern Ireland
 
So whats it like living in cloud cuckoo land?

THE SWAMI said:



the u.s. is very capable of doing this alone. as donald rumsfield put it......."going to war without france is like going hunting without an accordian". we only have 100k troops inside iraq. thats out of 300k deployed. wehre is massive gunz at?
 
It appears that the brits have lost a minimum of 3 men whilst playing in Basra.........thanks Nordstrom (BBC agreed with you :)).
 
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