Body Opus

[sureshot33]

Does anyone have a sample weekly meal plan from this book? I'm not one to "mooch" anything, but if someone has a sample week diet, I would really appreciate it.

thanks in advance,
SURESHOT33

 

[TxLonghorn]

Sample?

Eat meat and fat and no carbs. Do it any way you can.

Have a steak and baked potato with some juice, and toss the potato and juice. Go to Burger King and get the value meal and toss the drink, the fries, and the bun. Eat the patty.

Pretty simple, real difficult.

 

[sureshot33]

then what's the difference between that and the Atkins

 

[TxLonghorn]

You don't work out on Atkins. And you don't carb up on Atkins either.

They are both ketogenic diets. And the key to more fatloss is not just ketosis but muscle glycogen levels. So, you stop carbs, work out heavy the next 2 days to deplete the glycogen, and then the fat comes off.

My advice? Dnp. I have done ckd's, tkd's, etc. etc. (these are all derivations of ketogenic diets) and the sides you get from those diets are more pervasive, embarrassing, and noticeable than a low dose dnp cycle. Not to mention you will lose a boatload more fat on dnp than you ever will with ketosis.

I just want to say again, the sides from keto diets are WORSE than low dose (like 200mg/day) dnp.

I think for my tag line, I should put something like...Dieting is soooooo 90's.

 

[EVE]

I swear there's is no such thing as a low dose with the new version of dnp. I need like 50mg, pills. What is water retention like on the low dose cycle?

 

[TxLonghorn]

I swear there's is no such thing as a low dose with the new version of dnp. I need like 50mg, pills. What is water retention like on the low dose cycle?

Yeah, I agree, there needs to be a smaller available dose at a comparable price.

One female who demanded to take dnp, lol, is taking the cap and splitting it. She puts some spread cheese over both ends, that way it is still encapsulated. But, these are powder dnp caps. I gave her the rest, so all I have now is the crystal.

Water retention. Well, it's noticeable for me, but I don't think many others would see it. For example, the girl that is now on, never noticed it on me on my low dose cycle. But my boots fit tighter, etc. The sides were relatively mild, but the powder was almost non-existant.

And never has someone said, man, are you overheating? It's triple digit weather here, so everybody is hot.

 

[mrfoofu]

I've read the Body Opus. Basicly, as was stated previously, you eat all the protein and fat you can on Monday thru Friday. Burgers, Steak, and Sausage is perfect. You train monday, tuesday, and then Friday is a total body circuit workout to fully deplete the glycogen in every muscle group. After the Friday workout you begin to carb up by eating or drinking carbs every two hours for the rest of the weekend. Duchaine suggests setting your alarm so you can wake up every few hours during the night to ingest your carbs!!! Sunday night you cut out the carbs again and begin to glycogen deplete. The diet is pretty brutal, and the book is kind of vague.

 

[Riker29]

Couple of points here.

Duchaine was a genius, and Body Opus is a great book. But many guys dont fully understand it, and the imprtance of the carb-up.

Anyone seriously considering a CKD should read Lyle MacDonald's "The Ketopgenic Diet". It picked up where BodyOpus left off, in terms of real data and scientfic verification through experiements.

For example, it DOES matter how many cals you eat during the low- (no) carb periods. You cant pig out on EVERYTHING with no limits. Granted, most guys have their appetite blunted wheil in ketosis, so they don't eat as much anyway, but still - the point that you can eat "all you want" while in ketosis and still lose weight is NOT true.

The main benefit of ketosis is that given a caloric deficit, you will burn a bit mORE fat and lose a bit LESS lean mass than you would on a ,ore balnced diet with the same caloric deficit.

And . for TX, regarding DNP ...

I too like DNP, and did an extended low-dose cycle of it, and I would have to disagree with you on how uncomfortable it is vs doing a CKD. I DID have sides, and it go quite ridiculous, even on 200 mg/day of DNP. Each person may be different in their own experiences of DNP and CKDs, but to make a blanket statement that DNP is more comfortable, and implying that this would be true for everyone, is simply NOT true.

 

[TxLonghorn]

And . for TX, regarding DNP ...

but to make a blanket statement that DNP is more comfortable, and implying that this would be true for everyone, is simply NOT true.

I have to disagree on this one. Sure, there will always be some super sensitive individuals, but there is no stinky breath, no fuzzy feeling from thinking, you can eat and socialize with friends (you can't on keto), no worries about what you eat, no constant feeling of dehydration you get on keto, the smell of your sweat along with keto-breath, and on and on and on. And for what? A third of the fatloss, at best?

No, you try the keto diet for any length of time and then go to dnp. And the odds are you will come to the same conclusion as me...dieting is sooooo 90's.

 

[Riker29]

You didn't read what I said.

I have DONE DNP several times.

I have DONE CKDs for months on end.

Granted, DNP is MUCH more effective for burning fat quickly, but even at 200 mgs per day,. I sweated, was tired, had trouble sleeping, etc. This was nowhere near as bad as doing like 400 mg/day, but the effects were still there.

And I dont think I am overly sensitive to it to any great extent. I did 400 and it was chore, but nowhere near the Hell that others went through at 400.

I did CKDs for months and moths. I was able to incorporate it quiet well into my life. I didn't stink, I handlded the diet fine, I handled the once-per-week fuzzy feeling, no problem.

They are different experiences. Each has its good and bad points.

But at least I could like fucntion on CKDs. After like 3 weeks on DNP, I was exhausted, sweating, tired, ...... it just got ridiculous.

So not EVERYONE has the easy time with low-dose DNP cycles that others do, and not everyone has such a tough time with CKDs.

But, there is no comparison in terms of effectiveness.

 

[diamonddiceclay]

body opus does not have sample menus in it-that's the only bad thing about it

 

[zen42]

A bump for Lyle MacDonald's "The Ketogenic Diet".

It can be hard to get the book, but it has a lot of solid information.

 

[Riker29]

Interesting thing about that book is that the title is somewhat misleading, the book goes into a lot of detail abouy many diets, and describes the good and bad points of each.