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whats a safe level whilst on gear? is 130/90 dangerous or normal?
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MASSIVEMONSTER
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mine peaked at 135/92 so not too bad but off gear it goes to 120/80..
anyone else with any more info?
anyone else with any more info?
phatrr
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According to my doc, at 150/100 kidney damage begins - your kidneys start to self-destruct internally.
Typically your range would put you slightly above normal, and into the "pre-hypertension" range. In this range, you start to look for lifestyle changes to bring it back down; if lifestyle changes don't help, meds might be prescribed. In your case, since you already know what causes it, the answer would to be continue monitoring a couple times/day to make sure you don't rise while "on", and then make sure it comes down when "off".
BP & HyperTension Information
The above is a great overview on the subject, IMO.
Typically your range would put you slightly above normal, and into the "pre-hypertension" range. In this range, you start to look for lifestyle changes to bring it back down; if lifestyle changes don't help, meds might be prescribed. In your case, since you already know what causes it, the answer would to be continue monitoring a couple times/day to make sure you don't rise while "on", and then make sure it comes down when "off".
BP & HyperTension Information
The above is a great overview on the subject, IMO.
Prizz
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MASSIVEMONSTER said:
Well, the only thing I wanna add is that I see people with MUCH MUCH higher BP's, and are fine....... I work in an Intensive Care Unit in a hospital, and you'd be shocked how high a BP can go, and the person is fine..... Not trying to say you shouldn't worry about BP, but it sounds to me like youre a lil too worried bro..... You are WELL below the worry stage with your BP.....
rizz
Stacemranger
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That number is totally fine. Wouldn't worry about it at all. I go to Wal-Mart and use their little machine to check mine!
MASSIVEMONSTER
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that info shett that prizz refered me too says 140/90 is high and you must bring it down., mine is almost that and i dont smoke, drink alcohol, eat clean. it must be the gear. what can one do else to lower BP> i also do CV 20mins three times a week
MASSIVEMONSTER
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can a lot of muscle give you higher BP? my bf is only 11%, i cant really lose much weight. i could up my CV to 30 min three times a week i guess.
missionpossible
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I asked the same question about lowering my BP while on gear a few months ago. I had a few times that I checked my BP when on gear and it was 150/100, but it typically was staying around 135/90 on cycle. When off gear it was in the 120/80 range. With some help from the bro's on this board, it went down to a 117/ 78 average.
What was recommended was to up your water intake first off. Stress to the kidneys can lead to increased BP, so drink over a gallon of H2o a day while on. The other thing recommended is Taurine supplimentation. I bought Potassium, Magnesium and Taurine blend Mfg by "Now". I found them on the net for 6 bucks for 120, so they're pretty inexpensive. My BP went down to the 117/78 within 1 1/2 weeks and stayed there. I've tried other otc remedies for BP and none have had any significant impact on the BP, so I found this to be quite impresive. Give it a try!
What was recommended was to up your water intake first off. Stress to the kidneys can lead to increased BP, so drink over a gallon of H2o a day while on. The other thing recommended is Taurine supplimentation. I bought Potassium, Magnesium and Taurine blend Mfg by "Now". I found them on the net for 6 bucks for 120, so they're pretty inexpensive. My BP went down to the 117/78 within 1 1/2 weeks and stayed there. I've tried other otc remedies for BP and none have had any significant impact on the BP, so I found this to be quite impresive. Give it a try!
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MASSIVEMONSTER
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cheers MP. I assume you meant your BP went down to 117/78 not 177/78! LOL...
Is it best to get plain taurine or does it need to be with magnesium and potassium too??
Is it best to get plain taurine or does it need to be with magnesium and potassium too??
MASSIVEMONSTER
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what gear puts BP up most? is test and tren a bad combo? i would guess tren is, so can replacing it with deca a better option?
dullboy
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MASSIVEMONSTER said:
people with a lot lean mass such as yourself tend to be athletic, so the answer is sort of. (lol)
meaning...
your cardiovascular system doesn't differentiate too much between what sort of mass you carry, weight is weight, and you need to supply blood and oxygen to it.
the difference being that if you do a lot of cardio (aerbic exercise), you condition your vascular system to that extra weight.
so the answer is yes, doing more cardio should help lower your bp.
missionpossible
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MASSIVEMONSTER said:
oops...fixed that! lol...
I believe it was recommended to get the combo as these together help with BP and electrolyte balance.
Prizz
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You really need to pay more attention to the bottom number..... The bottom number is the amount of pressure in your arteries when the heart is in it's relaxed phase...... If it's consistantly over 100mmhg, that can be kind of bad..... so 150/100 is considered high BP..... To reduce it, take an asprin a day, do more cardio, eat less Sat Fat, and drink alot water.....
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phatrr
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mm, think of blood pressure as a range, not a discrete series of steps.
If you're really concerned, first you need to check your bp three times/day (straight from Radar). I put the money into an Omron (about $100), which automatically inflates and stores 90 readings with date and time, so it's really easy to take it and then review.
You want to try to see where on average you're at, and if you are rising/falling. Everything from stress to caffeine can raise your bp.
Example: I had mine taken at the doc's a couple weeks ago, and it was 158/110. However, for a lot of reasons, I was really freaked out at that time. I've been tracking it since, and I'm always around 120/70 to 130/80, depending on time of day and how long since working out.
The big thing you want to avoid is seeing that number climb and climb...then you have problems.
If you're really concerned, first you need to check your bp three times/day (straight from Radar). I put the money into an Omron (about $100), which automatically inflates and stores 90 readings with date and time, so it's really easy to take it and then review.
You want to try to see where on average you're at, and if you are rising/falling. Everything from stress to caffeine can raise your bp.
Example: I had mine taken at the doc's a couple weeks ago, and it was 158/110. However, for a lot of reasons, I was really freaked out at that time. I've been tracking it since, and I'm always around 120/70 to 130/80, depending on time of day and how long since working out.
The big thing you want to avoid is seeing that number climb and climb...then you have problems.
Yes, a good doctor WILL tell you not to continue using non prescribed AAS, if he didn't I'd find a good doctor. But a good doctor will also treat you despite any decisions you make that he does not agree with. For example, if you were an alcoholic, he'd still treat you, but he'd advise you to stop drinking.boops said:
MASSIVEMONSTER
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taking half aspirin a day. except thinning blood what other benefits? also doesnt taking aspirin mess up your stomach lining if you took half a day for long time?
missionpossible
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Aspirin keeps th platelets from sticking together, so your blood is less likely to clot. Aspirins benefits are more related to stroke issues and it generally has no effect on BP, up or down. If your concerned about aspirin and your stomach, get the enteric coated version, the aspirin does not break down in your stomach that way.
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tommy39
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I got my BP machine at walgreens for 60 bucks. I bought the walgreens extra
large cuff for 10 more dollars. It also stores readings. You should really check
several times a day for a couple of weeks to get an average. You are supposed to sit a few minutes and relax before taking also. Ive had mine at
158/95 after just sitting down and taking. Waited a few minutes and it was back at average 135/83. One or 2 readings is not accurate at all. It changes
to fast throughout the day. You need an average.
large cuff for 10 more dollars. It also stores readings. You should really check
several times a day for a couple of weeks to get an average. You are supposed to sit a few minutes and relax before taking also. Ive had mine at
158/95 after just sitting down and taking. Waited a few minutes and it was back at average 135/83. One or 2 readings is not accurate at all. It changes
to fast throughout the day. You need an average.
MASSIVEMONSTER
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how long after a test prop and tren acetate cycle should BP return to pre cycle levels? i ran 500 prop and 300 tren a week for six weeks.
will it return in about 3 weeks after?
also, can trib or nolva bang up BP?
will it return in about 3 weeks after?
also, can trib or nolva bang up BP?
The_Chemist
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25homes said:
Im sorry, but you wrong. 150/100 CANNOTbe mainted over a long period of time,and will result in permanent damage.
