Big Guys Bulk ??

[RABS]

Should a guy who gains lbs just by looking at food take bulking drugs or stick to cutting ones ??

Depends what body type he's goin for ??..........Not Ripped, ripped but a good big, cut size.......aka.GOLDBERG

 

[Greek Freak]

It depends on what your trying to do, if your already big and want to be leaner then of course you wouldnt want bulking drugs. If your big but soft or something then you may want to stack somethign like test and deca...throw in some fina at the end, then you will build some muscle but still get a big leaner. A lot of it has to do more with diet than it does with what drugs your taking also.

 

[nautica]

You diet dictates whether you bulk or cut not drugs.

Nautica

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

You diet dictates whether you bulk or cut not drugs.

Nautica

Agreed... Why is it that people consistently figure drugs can cut you up... think about it... that logic is just as absurd as figuring 12 amps of a drug will pack on the pounds... no foody-foody... no growy-growy...

I mean... there are drugs that'll allow you to remain hard or might increase vascularity... (i.e. winny, tren, primo etc...) and others that'll bloat you up like a pig... (17-aas... etc...) so certain drugs will not allow you to keep water down, but the whole basis of bulking/cutting is based on diet...

Diet and training is the corner stone of any program... not drugs...

 

[Dr.M]

I gain weight fairly easily, so I have to watch the carb intake. I do not take weight gainers for example, that stuff is loaded with carbs/excess calories. Basically I'm moderate fat, moderate carb (no more than around 150-200 a day carbs), and high protein (350g daily).

 

[AnabolicusEroticus]

Uh Strong, sorry to correct you, but winny (one of the androgens you advised for both reaming hard and incresing vascularity) is a 17-AA androgen. The alpha alkylation of an androgen to make it more orally bioavailable has absolutely nothing to do with fluid retention. That side is dependent on if an androgen aromatizes and winny does not.

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

Don't apologize...

I stand corrected...

Karma for you!

S.

 

[serge]

bulking/bloating drugs are ussually the BEST cutting drugs as they tend to exhibit heavy androgenic properties (best state for preserving muscle mass while in caloric deficit), for the most part bloating is easily controlled with aromatise inhibitors, with exception for anadrol and high doses of deca

so to answere your question, yes, endomorphs should definetly use "bulking" drugs, i beleave every cycle should be testosterone based, if you tend to gain fat easily you just have to pay much closer attention to your diet, do cardio, and really tighten up your estrogen-control component of the cycle

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

Good point serge.. but that sort of begs the question as to why people bother using primo etc... at all... I remember MANimal saying that he didn't believe in drugs of that nature, and that test would always do the trick...

I guess for the synergistic affect that high anabolic, low androgenic drugs have when coupled with heavy andros?

 

[serge]

I guess for the synergistic affect that high anabolic, low androgenic drugs have when coupled with heavy andros?

there is absolutely no use for primo, unless you can afford to run it at a gram/day. primo is something i would put a female i train to gain a few lbs of muscle mass.........but its not a drug male bodybuilder should use when seeking to gain muscle mass or to preserve it when dieting down to low single digit BF