Best steroids for endurance?

[SlimJim300]

Is there anyone here who has used steroids for pure endurance, like a marathon? What works best? Naturally you would think that steroids which increase red blood cell count would be good, but some (like tren) can decrease endurance. I would think that EQ and masteron would be a good combo. Maybe halo could be thrown in for the peak of training.

Just a curiosity I've had for some time.

-Slim

 

[SlimJim300]

Bump, karma for input.

 

[LVTitan]

i have no idea bro. sorry but i'll up this one for ya

 

[jacked clown]

Dont quote me but for some reason I believe I have read several times EQ give a increase in endurance.

 

[Ofcfriendly]

Now that's really a hard one. One would think that EQ would do the trick because of the increase in red blood cells that would allow for more oxygen use. On the other hand, I'd have to say no anyway because even if the muscle endurance was increased I'd think performance would still be inhibited by the pumps. Just by $.02. Bump for someone smarter than me....

 

[wetback]

Epo

 

[gimp]

no contest...WINSTROL is the best for endurance.

 

[cwc73]

I think most people would consider Winstrol a hindrence because most people say that they can't run a mile without the pump killing them.

 

[gimp]

maybe..but, runners (ben johnson comes to mind) who were busted for juice were usually found to be using winny.
It won't put extra water weight on you, you can't really bulk up on just winny alone (not major anyways), it increases RBC's (like all anabolics)...the pump that you are talking about would happen with any anabolic that increases RBC's (that's where the pump comes from). it's fast acting, therefore leaves your system quickly..the only downside would be joint pain.

 

[zach01]

EPO

Is there anyone here who has used steroids for pure endurance, like a marathon? What works best? Naturally you would think that steroids which increase red blood cell count would be good, but some (like tren) can decrease endurance. I would think that EQ and masteron would be a good combo. Maybe halo could be thrown in for the peak of training.

Just a curiosity I've had for some time.

-Slim

 

[gimp]

epo isn't an anabolic. it simply just increases RBC's.

 

[jacked clown]

Yes EPO is not a steroid I believe its on the lines of insulin and GH

 

[gimp]

it's erythropoeiten. it stimulates RBC production in bone marrow..it's a naturally occuring substance in the body.

 

[benevolent anarchist]

Equipoise does it for me. A few years ago I ran a 10K (Pike’s Peek) and the next day I felt like I could do it again. The year before I was wiped all weekend, which is how I typically feel after a long run… or should I say lumber. I lumbered through at just under a 10 minute mile pace.

 

[SlimJim300]

I also think muscle pumps would be a problem with winny (not to mention the joint pain). Ben Jonson was a short distance sprinter, and I've heard he was supposedly on halo and anavar, not winny. Maybe it was a bogus test or something.

Gimp is right about EPO, and it's often used by distance runners with great success. It's outrageously expensive, and probably more dangerous than steroid use.

BA, was there anything you were stacking with the EQ? Thanks for the input everyone.

 

[trickassmark]

I know cyclists that use EPO and clen... I know they not steroids, but if your worried about distance running then I wouldn't think you would be worried to much about muscle mass. Here's a little info I found if ur interested:

"Erythropoietin is produced in the kidney and stimulates the production of red blood cells. You may have heard of cyclists especially using 'EPO'. EPO's effect is to raise hematocrit levels allowing the blood to carry more oxygen. It is documented that the endurance process is improved in athletes with an increased red blood cell level, and thus an increased oxygen carrying capacity.

Although no direct links have been made between EPO and cycling deaths, anecdotal evidence is abundant. Too much r-EPO can increase hematocrit to the point that overall blood viscosity is increased making the blood like sludge. This thickened blood could cause the heart to work excessively hard, which may lead to a heart attack. Increasing hematocrit also increases the risk in the cyclist for clotting events, raises blood pressure, and resultant iron overload can ultimately lead to organ failure."

I think the knew thing is Hemopure/oxyglobin, not sue how these work...

 

[LVTitan]

Now that's really a hard one. One would think that EQ would do the trick because of the increase in red blood cells that would allow for more oxygen use. On the other hand, I'd have to say no anyway because even if the muscle endurance was increased I'd think performance would still be inhibited by the pumps. Just by $.02. Bump for someone smarter than me....

i love eq, never had any bad pumps ever while on it. not like winny/dbol

 

[donsj]

maybe..but, runners (ben johnson comes to mind) who were busted for juice were usually found to be using winny.
It won't put extra water weight on you, you can't really bulk up on just winny alone (not major anyways), it increases RBC's (like all anabolics)...the pump that you are talking about would happen with any anabolic that increases RBC's (that's where the pump comes from). it's fast acting, therefore leaves your system quickly..the only downside would be joint pain.

Johnson got busted because he got burned thinking he was buying furazabol from Japan but he got a counterfeit which was Winstrol. At the time the testing in the Olympics did not reveal furazabol.

 

[Advisor_x]

Stanozolol...............

 

[faaassst]

Stanozolol...............

Correct. I don't know why so many people keep posting all over the net that Ben Johnson got caught for winny. He was caught twice - once in '88 (at the Seoul Olympics) and again during the '91-92 indoor season for elevated testosterone.