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Best otc fat burning supplement

from my experience.

1.a geranamine based product liek ergopharm amp or stimulantx
2.dcp

you can always make your own ECA with bayer's bronkad(25mg ephedrine),nodoz caffeine(200mgs) and bayer aspirin 81mg.all are over the counter.
 
imo everything is "proven" it just depends if you're going to take "that" product and half ass it or give it your full 100%...
 
Yeah that is true, i agree. But Im sure that there are products out there that get the job done more than others given that you give your 100%
 
Check out PP's derma therm. his cutting stack is working fairly well for me so far and with my car breaking down I haven't been able to hit the gym but maybe 2 times last week. I'm still seeing a little more definition. I am not on a big caloric deficit right now. So the lack of intense cardio is also probably limiting my results a little. But this stuff is working.
 
You can pretty much get this at any city OTC(On The Corner).....................Crack. The Stemfast Diet can lean you right out.
 
Lipoflame and Lipostim - I love it. My intensity in the gym is insane and because of this I lost 4% bf in a little over a month. I'm sure there are other factors but I am a HUGE fan of flame. Neither give the gitters like other otc. Load up on your dosage slowly though. Stim is a more sustain energy and focus while flame is pretty imeediate high energy. I have to take it no more than 30 minutes before workout (1 minutes preferably - no crap). I just recently added the stim so we shall see. I took Amplify for awhile too but I wasn't crazy about how it made me feel. Check out some of Omega's threads - he has lots of ways you can take the stack to get the most out of it.

Don't forget though that diet is key to any fat burning. A supplement will simply enhance what you are already doing.
 
Thx for the feedback, so how exactly do you take your doses on lipoflame and lipostim? I've heard people are taking one too many capsules?
 
Thx for the feedback, so how exactly do you take your doses on lipoflame and lipostim? I've heard people are taking one too many capsules?
It definitely depends on the person and how your system responds to it. I personally have found that 1 capsule of stim in the morning works best for me. For Lipoflame I take 3 capsules before my workouts. IF I workout first thing in the morning I only take 2 capsules with the stim. It took me a couple of weeks to work up to 3 capsules of Flame. I started with just one. Omega recommends taking both more than once a day (1 - 3 caps of stim + 2 or 3 caps of Lipoflame both morning and mid day).

- I'm 5'3 1/2 and 130lb female.
 
OTC? Ephedrine HCL or Ephedrine Sulfate + Caffeine is probably still the king.

Theres also 1,3-Dimethyamylamine (Geranamine), a nasal decongestant/stimulant
Yohimbine HCL
Guarana
so on and so forth.
 
lipoflame and lipostim all the way
been doin lipoflame for 2 1/2months now and just added the stim in 3 weeks ago, so far ive lost 40lbs and over 12% bodyfat --gained a shitload of fat from excessive drinking every weekend for the past couple years..
i beleive the key to my fat loss was quitting drinking, sticking to a low carb (cycle) diet and taking the supps everyday, plus lipostim in the morning keeps me awake and alert throughout the day so i end up payin more attention in my classes.. both products are totally worth the money

also did pp's dermatherm, another great product
 
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