Best Newbie Cycle?

[happiest]

I have researched and considered A.S. for much time, and am now ready to take the first step. I am contemplating a mild cycle of primo and/or var, as they seem to aid in strength and lean gains, and have been touted as "gentler" when it comes to sides.
Have any of you guys done single drug cycles? any anxiety or limpness with primo?
I would prefer to do the least amount necessary of the fewest chemicals, as this is my first time.
I am 5'10''
190 on a heavy day with low BF
any help and advice would be appreciated!

 

[BigRupe]

I did my first cycle in 1989. It was deca and a drug named Sten. I did an 8 week cycle.

I did NOT do any sort of PCT. Back then all I knew about was Nolvadex which I had trouble finding.

I think the Primo/Var cycle would be a good one to meet your objectives.

IMHO the key to long term results while maintaining your health is short cycles, 4 to 6 weeks minimum between the cycles, low doses, and a good solid PCT, combined with excellent nutrition, balls to the wall workouts, and lots of hydration and sleep.

There are others here who may have a different opinion , lots more experience, and I am by no means an expert so get lots of advice and sort through it. Pick and choose the best advice from each individual.

 

[BigCracker]

Sten is almost the shittiest roid known to mankind. You should pummel whoever even sold you that stuff-especially back then when they're was plenty of Steris/Rugby Test available.

I too started using gear in 89-and have been on pretty much non stop ever since w/ no adverse effects(not yet anyway?). I usually used 200-500 mgs/wk and would switch up compounds every 8 -10 wks. I rarely used orals. During the time I was competing I would use higher mgs/ wk, but I never do it more than 10 wks w/o dropping my mgs back down to 200-500/ wk.

If you've been researching AAS, you should already know that 99% of the guys here are going to recommend you use 500 mgs/test per week for 8-10 wks for a first cycle instead of that pussy var/primo combo you mentioned. It's not that they're bad drugs, I just think of them as polishers for your physique after you've gained muscularity from higher androgen drugs like test/dbol. Just my .02cc's

 

[happiest]

thanks guys: I always heed others with more experience...
I thought Test would be for a later cycle, as I have heard it can be quite heavy for a newbie...and finding any legit, quality T is damn hard right now...

 

[andyjb]

Sten is almost the shittiest roid known to mankind. You should pummel whoever even sold you that stuff-especially back then when they're was plenty of Steris/Rugby Test available.

I too started using gear in 89-and have been on pretty much non stop ever since w/ no adverse effects(not yet anyway?). I usually used 200-500 mgs/wk and would switch up compounds every 8 -10 wks. I rarely used orals. During the time I was competing I would use higher mgs/ wk, but I never do it more than 10 wks w/o dropping my mgs back down to 200-500/ wk.

If you've been researching AAS, you should already know that 99% of the guys here are going to recommend you use 500 mgs/test per week for 8-10 wks for a first cycle instead of that pussy var/primo combo you mentioned. It's not that they're bad drugs, I just think of them as polishers for your physique after you've gained muscularity from higher androgen drugs like test/dbol. Just my .02cc's

Good post K+ for that

BTW watch your PM's for sources id be careful with them if i was you

 

[Ramcononer]

I was under the impression Primo is the most faked drug.

 

[andyjb]

I was under the impression Primo is the most faked drug.

anything with a high price tag and demand is i guess, if you have a good source you should be good to go. afterall theres plenty of genuine primo out there!