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This order - no comparision besides the first two.

Scherring or Organon (I prefer Org)
Ttokkyo
Brovel
IP

Jurox Test-Susp? = testosterone suspension (if you have to ask, don't do this drug for a while)
 
So its apparent that nobody likes the IP very much. I wonder why, because it comes in stronger doses, like sust 300, Deca 300 and many more. But I guess it is not very good quality. And I am definitley not planning on using the susp.
 
people dont like ip cause it is not a legit lab. it is a underground lab...so there is no regulations on what is in it. when people use the deca and it hurts...then you know something is wrong cause no other deca hurts. and the gains are horrible.
 
This board seems very biased against IP. Not that I really give 2 Sts.. for the guy but, I gained about 30 lbs of hard muscle during my last 3 cycles with his gear. The injectables sometimes hurt because of the alcohol that he uses and you can easily cook that off. There are so many counterfeits out there and very few quality controls checking the dosages and legitimacy of gear, that to say his is crap because it is home cooked – A lab in many respects is a lab and “he” isn’t actually producing the product. I have consulted at a number of national research “labs” which I’m sure are using worse equipment than he is. Remember a lot of it is in your head, and if you read this board only, and think that his stuff is crap - that will carry over to your work-outs and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. He has been around for a while and while many people on this board will tell you it's just "newbie’s" or "cheap Fks" who keep him in business, but the inevitable fact in this biz, it’s the results that count. Eventually his biz would have dried up by now. I have spoken with many others who felt the same way and have gotten decent to very good gains. Sometimes his prods are under dosed so double up or mix them with another brand to if you want to make yourself feel better. Do your home work - read other boards and get other opinions but all these IP haters start to sound like computer geeks who can't seem to get around another computer brand. You think that you were talking about their girlfriends!!
 
For injectibles, anything human grade, in no particular order:

Organon
Schering
Jelfa Omnadren
Upjohn

Orals, I will use mexican, but have found them to be underdosed (TT drol for example), however they are more widely available.

DrG
 
ybsmall said:
This board seems very biased against IP. Not that I really give 2 Sts.. for the guy but, I gained about 30 lbs of hard muscle ...out there and very few quality controls checking the dosages and legitimacy of gear, that to say his is crap because it is home ...computer brand. You think that you were talking about their girlfriends!!

How about this:

1) First injection - cellulitis infection - emergency room, antibiotics
2) Heat sterilize gear
3) Put gear into new sterile vials via sterile syringe filter (.2 microns)
4) Second injection - cellulitis infection (got enough antibiotics on hand to cover this one - boy was I pissed)

Not to mention lumps and pain.

I have run many cycles over a 10 year+ period. 1 previous infection years ago (may have just been irritation as it cleared on its own). I have used vet and every other type of gear with no problems or pain (including prop, sust, etc.. - I even made my own fina injectible in the early 90's when I was a real retard - no issues here either). My girlfriend is a nurse - my injection technique is about as good as it can get right now.

I won't use his injects again although they 'felt' accurately dosed. I am using his winny since I have it and it works solidly. I will not repurchase.
 
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