Running Beast + Diesel right now for 2 week kickstart - up about 5 lean pounds, no bloat. 3 diesel / 2 beast per day BUT only 5 on 2 off with Beast - sides were getting to me.
On the 2 off days - ran 4 Diesel, no sides
Beast is powerful but Diesel is much "cleaner" for me, no sides. I'm keeping Beast for 2 week kickstarts, or end of cutting cycle
No hairloss with Beast BUT running a shitload of hair saver products: 5% spironolactone, 15% minoxidil, 2 % Nizoral, Nioxin and Toco 8 2 -3X/day
Beast makes me strong but not worth the sides- I hope it works better for me as a cutter!
sides: increased BP & HR even on tons of fish oil and Hawthorn & Cranberry extract, HEADACHES, nausea (during workout), large, painful acne on back even with lots of B-5
Did NOT get kidney pain, joint pain, dehydration - except was constipated for about 5 days, no painful low back pumps.
For size, strength & overall "good" feeling Diesel is the best (for me) Haven't tried Epi-strong, Epi + Diesel is up next
I guess it's an individual thing but I think Diesel is the BEST (K.drol was good too)
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