Beast advice please

[rocket87]

Im new to the club, since stats are needed first here they are. 25 yo, 6' tall, 185 lbs, 8-9% BF. been lifting since about age 17. My goal with this cycle is to add lean muscle and strength. No previous cycles of anything but supplements. Been lurking and studying for a while now Im ready for input and critiquing from the guys that know first hand. Thinking about beast as a first cycle since its an oral and everyone seems to be really happy with results of it, dont really wanna get my feet wet with injectables. Im not looking to cycle right now but would like to in a few months but due to the ban I need to get stuff now. I was thinking of getting the starter stack of beast and running it as they (not sure I can mention the name although I have seen it alot on here) suggest. And also doing the BOGO of beast for future cycles to be stacked with other things. The first cycle im sure most of you have seen but here is what I was thinking.

1-4 beast - 30mg ed (maybe 20mg the first couple days then up to 30)
1-4 forged joint repair
1-4 forged liver support
4-8 post cycle (will run unleashed also if you guys think I need to)
4-10 forma stanzol

Not sure if I need to run something like clomid with this cycle or not but I know you guys will correct any errors and add things I need. Again not looking to cycle till I put on about 10-15 more pounds. wanna be around 195-200 at start. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated

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[freakshow85]

I'd definitely stick the unleashed in there, too. You got the Forma.. keep it on hand just in case you need it on cycle, too. I always run HCGenerate on these cycles. My first cycle was Helladrol, and I didn't run it, and around 3 and a half to 4 weeks, I could tell they were shrinking. Some people say that's not long enough to tell, some people say these substances aren't strong enough to do that to you. Well, I know one thing, they started getting smaller. By day 4 of HCGenerate, they were back to normal, and that's no lie. It's a good thing to run so you get into PCT easier. That's where all the problems come. Sure, we can take AAS, get big, get cut, whatever... but then we have to stop. So, we like to make the transition as less of a shock as we can on our body going into PCT so we can keep as much as possible.

My personal thing, but I always take fish oil with my Beast or Hella. I also try and take 1g of arginine 30 minutes before I take my Beast and fish oil. I want as much absorption as I can get. See, I take 3g of Arginine and 3g of Lysine a day. At the least, I don't get sick and look more vascular for a bit. At the best, if the studies are true, I am increasing my HGH release.

 

[rocket87]

I'd definitely stick the unleashed in there, too. You got the Forma.. keep it on hand just in case you need it on cycle, too. I always run HCGenerate on these cycles. My first cycle was Helladrol, and I didn't run it, and around 3 and a half to 4 weeks, I could tell they were shrinking. Some people say that's not long enough to tell, some people say these substances aren't strong enough to do that to you. Well, I know one thing, they started getting smaller. By day 4 of HCGenerate, they were back to normal, and that's no lie. It's a good thing to run so you get into PCT easier. That's where all the problems come. Sure, we can take AAS, get big, get cut, whatever... but then we have to stop. So, we like to make the transition as less of a shock as we can on our body going into PCT so we can keep as much as possible.

My personal thing, but I always take fish oil with my Beast or Hella. I also try and take 1g of arginine 30 minutes before I take my Beast and fish oil. I want as much absorption as I can get. See, I take 3g of Arginine and 3g of Lysine a day. At the least, I don't get sick and look more vascular for a bit. At the best, if the studies are true, I am increasing my HGH release.

Awesome, how do you run your HCgenerate? The whole cycle what?

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[freakshow85]

Well, at 3 in the am and 2 in the pm, that lasts 4 weeks. So, you can start from the beginning of your Beast cycle, or you can wait a week into it and continue running it for a week into PCT. I wait a few days (5-7) before I start taking it, or time it to where I can run it a few days into PCT. You won't be disappointed with beast, you will put mass on and it's gonna be noticeable. People will say things. If I had the money, I'd buy 10 more bottles, and I'm not joking. But, I have 3 for now and I'm gonna miss it come the end of the month.

I'll also just recommend you look into SARMs and running them through or after PCT to keep gains. Osta/S4 has kept me solid, lean, and I'm losing fat and was just told today my arms look bigger. But, ya have days where you are more pumped than others, but I know that when I do ketosis, I lose muscle and get scrawny in my arms. Not on Osta/S4. It's wild, and excuse my change of subject, that we can get these things, legally, and all my friends think I'm on steroids. (Which, yeah, I've ran Beast and Hella twice, but you know what I mean). When I flex, it's all there. Veins. Cuts. Everytime. I feel great. I dunno, but I think Osta/S4 gives ya a positive feel. I have endurance for my whole work out like it's nothing, I have to just stop because I'm not on anything and don't want to workout over 1.5 hours.

 

[rocket87]

Well, at 3 in the am and 2 in the pm, that lasts 4 weeks. So, you can start from the beginning of your Beast cycle, or you can wait a week into it and continue running it for a week into PCT. I wait a few days (5-7) before I start taking it, or time it to where I can run it a few days into PCT. You won't be disappointed with beast, you will put mass on and it's gonna be noticeable. People will say things. If I had the money, I'd buy 10 more bottles, and I'm not joking. But, I have 3 for now and I'm gonna miss it come the end of the month.

I'll also just recommend you look into SARMs and running them through or after PCT to keep gains. Osta/S4 has kept me solid, lean, and I'm losing fat and was just told today my arms look bigger. But, ya have days where you are more pumped than others, but I know that when I do ketosis, I lose muscle and get scrawny in my arms. Not on Osta/S4. It's wild, and excuse my change of subject, that we can get these things, legally, and all my friends think I'm on steroids. (Which, yeah, I've ran Beast and Hella twice, but you know what I mean). When I flex, it's all there. Veins. Cuts. Everytime. I feel great. I dunno, but I think Osta/S4 gives ya a positive feel. I have endurance for my whole work out like it's nothing, I have to just stop because I'm not on anything and don't want to workout over 1.5 hours.

Alright bro. Everything else on the cycle looks good though?

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[freakshow85]

I'm not sure, but N2Guard may cover what both forged joint repair and forged liver support cover. I can let someone else give you feed back on that. It all looks good to me, though. When you run Forma, usually you start at 5 pumps in the morning/5 pumps in the pm. Then the last two weeks, taper down to 2 pumps am/2 pumps pm, and personally, I even hit the last few days with just a pump a day. I came off my first time at 5 am/5 pm and just quit, and had estro rebound. Tapering off the next time gave me no issues.

 

[Jigga14]

Right on Freakshow! I think i'll use some of that advice on my upcoming Beast run. Interesting about the fish oils and arganine, and the tapering off forma, love the info!

 

[freakshow85]

Well, I have no facts behind the arginine besides that I know what it does and every little bit counts, imo. I don't see how it could hurt having it in my system 30 minutes before I take my PH. I should be getting more absorption, theoretically. The fish oil thing... some PH's need fats to be absorbed and some don't. I believe methylated compounds don't? Do not take my word on that, I am not sure. BUT, what I do know is I personally felt stronger effects from my cycles when I started taking them with fish oil. I have no science behind it... well, there are studies out there about it. Not sure if they apply to the type of compounds that beast or hella are. I just offer my experience and what I've learned on this site. I always feel I need a disclaimer when I give advice, lol, because everyone's body is different, also. But thank you, and I do believe in tapering off Forma, no doubt.

Hell, while I'm giving my personal advice, lemme throw in that when you start running these compounds, more than likely, you are gonna start having a lot more oil coming from your face. I have to wash my face 4 - 6 times a day (just a wet, clean towel/wash cloth/whatever you call it from where you live) to keep pimples down to a minimum. I train hard, sweat, and work out side... and sweat... and sweat walking through walmart (which may be attributed to stares, sometimes) Point being, maybe I just sweat a lot, but I will get pimples beside my nose, jaw line, and on my forehead if I don't keep my face clean while "on". I don't have any problems with these giving me back acne or anything. Read up on the pumps... I only had one experience with crippling pumps in my back... and I was asleep and it woke up me. Just a one time thing. Lethargy can be a thing if you are not getting enough carbs. HCGen keeping your boys plump and having the right diet intake should not leave you feeling dead on week four.

 

[JoRo91]

Whatsup guys, I've been looking around for quite sometime, and beast interested me quite a bit. Anyone able to compare it to dmz? I ran across that after beast but couldn't find a definite comparison on any forums. With beast going out soon I just wanna know what you guys think

 

[rocket87]

Any other input on the starter stack?

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[oxymoron]

1-4 beast - 30mg ed (maybe 20mg the first couple days then up to 30)
1-4 forged joint repair
1-4 forged liver support
4-8 post cycle (will run unleashed also if you guys think I need to)
4-10 forma stanzol

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20mg for the first 10 days min, i'd say to start as it will kick in day 6-8. a buddy is running it right now and he got some weird heat rash at day 7 and its nasty but he's already up from 245x10 bench to 265. his doc told him to cold pack his neck because of the pustules. its weird lookin. anyways the sides are crazy so take it slow but get rdy for crazy gains. i'd run n2guard w/ liver supps which is doubling up but just be safe do it, yes i'm over cautious harsh orals esp this shit.

check ur bp if u start stims to beat the lethargy. you'll possiby get tired as shit with this so u'll want some oep or forged burner to beat it so if u do, stay on ur bp.

run a full ass pct. i'd say go unleashed w/ post cycle with a very slow tapered off clomid. the worry with beast is the rebound and i've seen over a month later gyno when the esto kicks back in so that's the toughest part of this. maybe dylan or someone smart as shit about tapering this might chime in. my advice is leave the ai's very low thru pct and taper them off slowly.
have letro in the cabinet, adex at a min.
goodluck.

 

[oxymoron]

my friend, beast is not a good idea for a first cycle... you don't start off with one of the strongest and harshest orals out there... you ease your way into things... you don't introduce your body to a foreign substance with it being the strongest... you need to start with something like helladrol as a first cycle and work your way onto a beast cycle... the starter stacks are not sufficient... its better to get things separate... i can help you set up any stack you decide but it is not wise to start off with beast as a first cycle...

ahhh shit i didnt even see that this was ur first cycle bro. it's crazy harsh and can mess ur ass up. i got a friend that took beast a few months ago and he spent 4 wks on the toilet. couldnt and cycle failed. its not a first cycle compound. stick to test at 400-ish mg and u'll be blown away at the results u can get!

 

[dylangemelli]

my friend, beast is not a good idea for a first cycle... you don't start off with one of the strongest and harshest orals out there... you ease your way into things... you don't introduce your body to a foreign substance with it being the strongest... you need to start with something like helladrol as a first cycle and work your way onto a beast cycle... the starter stacks are not sufficient... its better to get things separate... i can help you set up any stack you decide but it is not wise to start off with beast as a first cycle...

 

[rocket87]

my friend, beast is not a good idea for a first cycle... you don't start off with one of the strongest and harshest orals out there... you ease your way into things... you don't introduce your body to a foreign substance with it being the strongest... you need to start with something like helladrol as a first cycle and work your way onto a beast cycle... the starter stacks are not sufficient... its better to get things separate... i can help you set up any stack you decide but it is not wise to start off with beast as a first cycle...

Great info bro, you said somethin about hella, what would be a good way to run this as a first cycle? Also since beast is getting banned should I do the BOGO for future cycles while its still avaliable and just hold onto it or forget about beast all together?

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[dylangemelli]

i would definitely get the bogo on beast because you will definitely want to run it later on... just start with hella, see how you respond and then maybe beast as a second or third cycle...

1-6 helladrol 75/75/75/100/100/125
1-6 proviron- 50-75 mg day
1-6 n2guard
1-6 hcgenerate
1-10 need2slin
1-10 creatine nitrate
3-10 forma stanzol

pct
7-10 clomid 25/25/25/25
7-10 unleashed/post cycle combo
7-10 lean extreme
7-10 daa powerchews

 

[rocket87]

i would definitely get the bogo on beast because you will definitely want to run it later on... just start with hella, see how you respond and then maybe beast as a second or third cycle...

1-6 helladrol 75/75/75/100/100/125
1-6 proviron- 50-75 mg day
1-6 n2guard
1-6 hcgenerate
1-10 need2slin
1-10 creatine nitrate
3-10 forma stanzol

pct
7-10 clomid 25/25/25/25
7-10 unleashed/post cycle combo
7-10 lean extreme
7-10 daa powerchews

Hey thanks bro! I really appreciate it. I'll get started on ordering stuff in the next day or two. Would you recommend tapering off the forma or anything like that as mentioned above or run it exactly as you have laid it out?

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[dylangemelli]

just run it the way its laid out bro...

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[rocket87]

just run it the way its laid out bro...

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Alright, thanks bro.

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[rocket87]

i would definitely get the bogo on beast because you will definitely want to run it later on... just start with hella, see how you respond and then maybe beast as a second or third cycle...

1-6 helladrol 75/75/75/100/100/125
1-6 proviron- 50-75 mg day
1-6 n2guard
1-6 hcgenerate
1-10 need2slin
1-10 creatine nitrate
3-10 forma stanzol

pct
7-10 clomid 25/25/25/25
7-10 unleashed/post cycle combo
7-10 lean extreme
7-10 daa powerchews

Correct me if im wrong but isnt liquid clomi the same as clomid? And if so im only seeing it in 35mg/ml i can always short it a little to only take in 25mg as recommended but not sure how exact I can be with that. Also having a hard time finding proviron, (not sure what that is to be honest so dont really know what Im looking for) anything I can sub for that or another name for it I may find it under?

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[dylangemelli]

Correct me if im wrong but isnt liquid clomi the same as clomid? And if so im only seeing it in 35mg/ml i can always short it a little to only take in 25mg as recommended but not sure how exact I can be with that. Also having a hard time finding proviron, (not sure what that is to be honest so dont really know what Im looking for) anything I can sub for that or another name for it I may find it under?

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if you cant get proviron, thats fine... its just a nice addition... its a steroid so you can't just find it on any website... thats kind of up to you to find... the clomid on the oral syringe would be up to the 8 to 8.5 mark...

 

[rocket87]

if you cant get proviron, thats fine... its just a nice addition... its a steroid so you can't just find it on any website... thats kind of up to you to find... the clomid on the oral syringe would be up to the 8 to 8.5 mark...

Ok that makes sense as to why i couldnt find it then lol.. now that I know what it is...

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