BAD Kidney results after cycle, Help decipher please!.

[tadenu20]

Possible Bad Kidney results after cycle, Help decipher please.

Hi All,

Maybe this is not as bad as the doctor made it out to be...but he broke the news to me like i am dying or something. Says it looks like I have stage 3 kidney disease, tried to tell him I just came off a cycle but he didn't seem to understand. I need peers opinions on these numbers who can tell me whats what who know what these numbers mean.

I am currently in a fire academy working my butt off to survive and I did a quick 1 month cycle and now have been on liquid tamox at 40/mg day for 1.5 weeks. Which i just stopped yesterday. I got the blood work a week after my last oral steroid.

Please take a look and let me know if I should worry or if this will clear up after my body gets back to normal. I am having Major anxiety from this situation!

Creatinine: 1.4 .6-1.4
BUN: 17 8-25
Potassium 5.1 3.5-5.2
ALB/GLOB ratio: 1.8 1.0-2.0
BUN/CREAT ratio: 12.1 10.0-28.0
ALT: 51 5-46
AST: 21 10-41
GFR estimated: 49 ( >=61(normal)
HDL: 17 (looow but normal on cycle i believe)
cholesterol: 160

Weight 210
Height 5'10.5
BF: Lean (crossfit body)
BP: 117/70

I have always been healthy as a horse! so I figure this has to be from my cycle somehow.

I fasted before the test and was feeling kind of woozy from not eating so long and I know I was also dehydrated from the color of my urine during the urine test. The doctor wants me to take another test asap to make sure its not a lab error but I am going to wait till monday to let more time pass from the cycle.

Thank you very much for any and all help.

 

[tadenu20]

I am looking up every one of those results and everything is within the normal range except the GFR score is still really low, I dont understand that.

 

[tadenu20]

Bump'n

 

[iamthatiam]

It appears that he's basing it on you creatinine level and that's also why your estimated efg is low. They use a formula...Sounds like your doctor is a dumbass.

 

[zmyj88]

Most doctors freak like that when something's out of whack. They don't actually know what juice does to you. Took me years, and I'm proud to say I know have a doctor that juices, and I can't tell you how much easier this makes life. I would assume they're few and far between tho

 

[stevesmi]

has nothing to do with juice, has to do with breaking down and repairing muscle. these stupid ranges are based on the average American couch potato whose biggest lifts are picking up their beer during the game.. they aren't based on people who lift regularly. if you stopped lifting for 2 weeks and then re-tested your numbers would come in the way your idiot doctor wants. I've had high creatinine and BUN levels for 20 fucking years and I am still alive just fine, because I have been lifting for 20 years nonstop

your doctor is an imbecile and should do more reading before claiming a person has kidney disease. this is why its important to find a doctor who deals with bodybuilders, not one who deals with 55 year old typical couch potato... please fire this doctor before he hurts you in the wallet, which is probably what he is trying to do

 

[iamthatiam]

That and taking creatine will also cause elevated creatinine levels. Doctors should know this and the ones that don't are ignorant and dangerous.

 

[polarbear1134]

Re: Possible Bad Kidney results after cycle, Help decipher please.

Hi All,

Maybe this is not as bad as the doctor made it out to be...but he broke the news to me like i am dying or something. Says it looks like I have stage 3 kidney disease, tried to tell him I just came off a cycle but he didn't seem to understand. I need peers opinions on these numbers who can tell me whats what who know what these numbers mean.

I am currently in a fire academy working my butt off to survive and I did a quick 1 month cycle and now have been on liquid tamox at 40/mg day for 1.5 weeks. Which i just stopped yesterday. I got the blood work a week after my last oral steroid.

Please take a look and let me know if I should worry or if this will clear up after my body gets back to normal. I am having Major anxiety from this situation!

Creatinine: 1.4 .6-1.4
BUN: 17 8-25
Potassium 5.1 3.5-5.2
ALB/GLOB ratio: 1.8 1.0-2.0
BUN/CREAT ratio: 12.1 10.0-28.0
ALT: 51 5-46
AST: 21 10-41
GFR estimated: 49 ( >=61(normal)
HDL: 17 (looow but normal on cycle i believe)
cholesterol: 160

Weight 210
Height 5'10.5
BF: Lean (crossfit body)
BP: 117/70

I have always been healthy as a horse! so I figure this has to be from my cycle somehow.

I fasted before the test and was feeling kind of woozy from not eating so long and I know I was also dehydrated from the color of my urine during the urine test. The doctor wants me to take another test asap to make sure its not a lab error but I am going to wait till monday to let more time pass from the cycle.

Thank you very much for any and all help.

HDL 17? holly cow...usually if you get down to the low 30s for hdl they want to put you on medicine to raise it. HDL of 17 is very low. Anything below 40 is considered below normal.
Your GFR is low 20% below the bottom of the normal range and less than half the top of the normal range. Which also suggests that your kidneys are having issues clearing sugar and creatine from your system.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ totally normal for cholesterol levels to come in at scary levels on steroids. that is why guys have to cycle off (which more and more guys don't do anymore)

when I ran tren my bad cholesterol was 220.. when I came off 3 weeks later they were back to normal levels.

 

[j_p]

It appears that he's basing it on you creatinine level and that's also why your estimated efg is low. They use a formula...Sounds like your doctor is a dumbass.

agreed... which is very stupid.. common sense/knowledge = if you take creatine supp you have higher creatinine levels, which is fine.... also with heavy work outs it can bump it a bit.
i assume you where taking creatin?

also why on earth would you do a 4 week cycle? was this your first go?