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atlantabiolab...

bwood

Banned
what books would your recommend
for me to read during my 5 week hiatus
from law school this summer???

i need the most effective ones for
building arguments against the piles
of liberal horseshite that i will be engulfed
in during con. law this fall...

i agree with you on about 99% of what
you post here, but your theory arguments
often go over my head (in terms of their historical grounding)
and that is a deficiency that i must correct to
maximize my argumentative skills...
 
Foucault's Pendulum by umberto eco.

it's a great book, especially if you are interested in the knights templar and the occult in general. the amount of research put into this book is incredible.
 
Hey!

Consider this a bump.

I recommend reading as much liberal stuff as you can. If you want to really refute people, you need to understand them based on their thought process and refute them using their own reasoning.

Otherwise, no matter how well you can articulate your perspective, you end up talking past each other. (In legal terms, this puts things in the hands of judges/juries/mediators..very bad).

That is how you not only succeed at negotiating but changing minds.

Any lawyer worth a damn will be able to understand the other side's arguments as the other side sees them, as opposed to the way the lawyer thinks they are intended.

For every high profile case, our lawyers are expected to understand all angles as seen from that angle. Recommend you do the same sir.

Read up. Liberal shit all the way.
 
bwood said:
what books would your recommend
for me to read during my 5 week hiatus
from law school this summer???

i need the most effective ones for
building arguments against the piles
of liberal horseshite that i will be engulfed
in during con. law this fall...

i agree with you on about 99% of what
you post here, but your theory arguments
often go over my head (in terms of their historical grounding)
and that is a deficiency that i must correct to
maximize my argumentative skills...

Start with any of Ayn Rand's books, but especially "The New Left", "The Virtue of Selfishness", "Objectivism", etc. Her novels are great, but her non-fiction writtings give a great foundation for thinking. They read easily too.

Any books by Tibor Machan, prolific libertarian philosopher.

Any books by Ludwig von Mises ("Socialism" is more in-depth than any work I have read on the subject), F.A. Hayek, Milton Friedman, Murray Rothbard (considered founder of modern Libertarianism).

"The Federalist Papers" and "The Anti-Federalist Papers"

Any writtings of the Founders.

For Constitutional Law, Aristotle, Aquinas, Grotius, Locke are good foundations of Natural Law Theory.

Any books by Mortimer Adler, especially "Aristotle for Everybody".

And as Matt stated, read the works of the left also.

Live at Half.com.
 
Re: Re: atlantabiolab...

atlantabiolab said:


Start with any of Ayn Rand's books, but especially "The New Left", "The Virtue of Selfishness", "Objectivism", etc. Her novels are great, but her non-fiction writtings give a great foundation for thinking. They read easily too.

Any books by Tibor Machan, prolific libertarian philosopher.

Any books by Ludwig von Mises ("Socialism" is more in-depth than any work I have read on the subject), F.A. Hayek, Milton Friedman, Murray Rothbard (considered founder of modern Libertarianism).

"The Federalist Papers" and "The Anti-Federalist Papers"

Any writtings of the Founders.

For Constitutional Law, Aristotle, Aquinas, Grotius, Locke are good foundations of Natural Law Theory.

Any books by Mortimer Adler, especially "Aristotle for Everybody".

And as Matt stated, read the works of the left also.

Live at Half.com.
Half.com is a fixed price marketplace from the Ebay folks. Is this where your books are procured? I could not find the title "Sounding Smart for Dummies."


j/k

sort of
 
Re: Re: atlantabiolab...

atlantabiolab said:


Start with any of Ayn Rand's books, but especially "The New Left", "The Virtue of Selfishness", "Objectivism", etc. Her novels are great, but her non-fiction writtings give a great foundation for thinking. They read easily too.

Any books by Tibor Machan, prolific libertarian philosopher.

Any books by Ludwig von Mises ("Socialism" is more in-depth than any work I have read on the subject), F.A. Hayek, Milton Friedman, Murray Rothbard (considered founder of modern Libertarianism).

"The Federalist Papers" and "The Anti-Federalist Papers"

Any writtings of the Founders.

For Constitutional Law, Aristotle, Aquinas, Grotius, Locke are good foundations of Natural Law Theory.

Any books by Mortimer Adler, especially "Aristotle for Everybody".

And as Matt stated, read the works of the left also.

Live at Half.com.

i have read a lot of rand...i especially like "anthem..."

when one considers her history and the upswing in
communistic thinking during her formative years, it is
amazing that she developed as she did...or was even
published during those years...

i think i will start with von Mises...thanks!!!
 
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bwood said:


i have read a lot of rand...i especially like "anthem..."

when one considers her history and the upswing in
communistic thinking during her formative years, it is
amazing that she developed as she did...or was even
published during those years...

Don't forget that she died alone and regretted her view of life.
 
we all die alone...

and i will take the viewpoint of the
young and vibrant over that of
the old and worn out anytime...
 
bwood said:
we all die alone...

and i will take the viewpoint of the
young and vibrant over that of
the old and worn out anytime...

I hope not to die alone...

I'd prefer the perspective of the aged rather than the youthful, most of the time.

My point is, she pretty much renounced and regretted a lot of what she wrote / believed. Just something to consider as you read about why Roark destroyed the Stoddard temple.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:


I hope not to die alone...

I'd prefer the perspective of the aged rather than the youthful, most of the time.

My point is, she pretty much renounced and regretted a lot of what she wrote / believed. Just something to consider as you read about why Roark destroyed the Stoddard temple.

I have not studied Rand's life, but where did you read that she renounced her beliefs? She died alone, since her husband died before her, on a train in New Orleans, after giving a speech to a convention of business men.

She was very dogmatic and eccentric, but in her writtings she voices the idea that man's knowledge is not omniscient, which is why he is often wrong. But her belief in man's ability to know "truth" was against the growing current of thinking that man's rational capacity is impotent, that reality is subjective and therefore there is no "right" or "wrong". The specifics of her life are not the important idea, but the broad principles she held.
 
atlantabiolab,

what other political theorists/philosophers do you recommend? better yet, who do you believe is essential for a person to have in their library?

i particularly enjoy voltaire and thomas paine. i have a john locke collection of various works, but i have yet to get around to reading it.

matt, everyone will die alone at some. at some point, everyone you love will either die or reject you.
 
Testosterone boy said:
:confused:

WTF man.........I'd have been more than happy to share the foundations of Test boy metaphysics.

you're into metaphysics? really? share some books that you think i would enjoy reading. seriously, no flame at all.
 
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