sopac said:So I've been searching around the site to see what people say are better and it seems that more people prefer Aromasin, but theres also a lot of guys that say Aromasin is crap and Arimidex is better. Just wanted some suggestions on which one i should get.
krishna said:Arimidex isn't strong enough for me and it can cause a rebound. Aromasin is a suicidal inhibitor and will not cause the rebound.
krishna said:Arimidex isn't strong enough for me and it can cause a rebound. Aromasin is a suicidal inhibitor and will not cause the rebound.
MercDD said:Keep in mind you dont want to destroy estrogen.. Estrogen is very important in the muscle building process..
Test effects on GH , and igf are dependant on aromatization to estrogen.. Alot of people get reduced gains when using AI's on a cycle.. You want to keep estrogen in check , but you dont want to try and totally destroy it..
Merc.
sopac said:So are you implying i should use arimidex?
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MercDD said:Keep in mind you dont want to destroy estrogen.. Estrogen is very important in the muscle building process..
Test effects on GH , and igf are dependant on aromatization to estrogen.. Alot of people get reduced gains when using AI's on a cycle.. You want to keep estrogen in check , but you dont want to try and totally destroy it..
Merc.
702daswoll1 said:Nice post. My AI's ruined the first part of my cycle.
sopac said:So are you implying i should use arimidex?
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702daswoll1 said:Nice post. My AI's ruined the first part of my cycle.
MercDD said:Here is something I wrote on estrogen and ai's...
ESTROGEN AND AI's
Will taking AI's effect my gains ?
By Merc.
When you talk about testosterone you also usually hear words like estrogen and aromatase ..
Most people that use AAS ( anabolic androgenic steroids ) understand that testosterone converts to estrogen (via aromatase enzyme) and this causes problems like bloating, gyno, and other side effects. People have been posting on message boards, lately, inquiring as to how AI's ( aromatase inhibitors) and estrogen relate to muscle gains.
Estrogen is important to the muscle-building process. Estrogen has been linked to increases in GH and IGF-1. Therefore, in essence, some of testosterone's effects are dependent, to a degree, on the aromatization process..
For instance, cattle are given estradiol in order to "beef" them up. And when cattle ranchers choose a single drug treatment, they always pick estrogen. This is because estrogen's role is important. Think about it, how many people report that when using AI's their gains are diminished? AI's reduce estrogen levels which, in turn, reduce GH and IGF-1 levels.
I have a buddy that has done 2 cycles. The first he used Testosterone enanthate at 500 mg per week with Arimidex at 0.5 EOD. His second cycle consisted of 600 mg of testosterone cypionate per week with 40 mg of Dbol per day (with .5mg Arimidex per day). He ate well and trained intensely yet he wasn't making the gains he expected to make considering the drugs he was using. This friend made an appointment with his doctor and the doctor ordered a total testosterone and total estrogen blood test. It turned out, his estrogen was extremely low.. He then finished his cycle and did a proper pct and took time off to recover ..
Than he did another cycle using Dianabol, testosterone enanthate at 600 mg per week, and no AI. This time his body responded incredibly. People that didnt see him for a few months didnt even recognize him. He went beck to the doctor and asked for blood work while he was on cycle (7 weeks into the latest cycle). This time around, his estrogen was high (around 300 ng/ml with 120 ng/ml or less being considered norma. Likewise, his strength was through the roof and he reported a great sense of well being and energy associated with what he was doing. There were no real side-effects that were where experienced. He also never looked real bloated.
Let's not forget, gynecomastia (bitch tits) thrive on high estrogen levels so you are never to let that hormone climb too high. Remember, minimize the breast's exposure to estrogen; but don't get rid of it completely.
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