arimidex during PCT???

[kraft]

I was always under the impression that you wanted some estrogen production so your hormonal levels would return to normal, thus taking arimidex along with clomid and/or nolva during PCT was a bad idea. But now I hear that most people use it during pct.
So what too do?

 

[kraft]

bump

 

[thx9000]

You were under the right impression. Some people feel it helps to keep E levels low during PCT, but how do you know you aren't supressing them almost nothing? Very low E levels are not good for good recovery. PCT without an anti-aromatase works very well, don't complicate things by including arimidex.

 

[junk]

No need to use aromatase inhibitor during PCT. Run Nolva. a better option and won't supress e levels. Most people get their e levels too low during the cycle. You want to get them right post cycle + want to get right your lipid profile which probably look like hell after Arimidex.

 

[jcp2]

You were under the right impression. Some people feel it helps to keep E levels low during PCT, but how do you know you aren't supressing them almost nothing? Very low E levels are not good for good recovery. PCT without an anti-aromatase works very well, don't complicate things by including arimidex.

Yeah, it is my understanding that most of the estrogen in the our bodies is from the aromitization of naturally produced test, with are bodies not producing any, or very little, we most likely have low estrogen levels, now they may be high as a ratio to actual test but if we drop them to ulmost nill, it is going to fuck up your libido even more, or not allow it to normalize for a longer period, and you are probably going to destroy your hdl levels.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

yep arimidex during pct (so long as pct is a few weeks post last aas jab) is a bad idea

you use arimidex to stop excess estrogen being formed as a result of high test

pct protocols kick in when there is very low test in the body, hence, no need for arimidex

besides as mentioned above, you need estrogen in normal physiological range for things such as libido etc

sorry if i have repeated what others have said i just kind of jump in and answer so im not biased by previous replies (i just skim)

cheers

 

[kraft]

thanks alot for the help bros very good replys

 

[ksosa]

am gonna have to hijack, sorry bro. I cant post a new thread for shit. I 've been trying.

I plan on running a fina only cycle for 6 weeks at 75mg ed. Also, dropping my daily cals to 2,000. Should I use Arimidex for PCT or will anything else work better ?

 

[ksosa]

never mind. That search button is great, LOL. I'll run 40mg of Nolva and a 2wk clen cycle.

 

[WanderingClumsyFool]

Alot of bad advice on this thread. Pseudo sciene BS.

Arimidex is a perfectly viable option for pct. In fact in my opinion it works better than most regiments. It makes you feel sick sometimes though. Also, there are health concerns with arimidex that might not exist with nolvadex. Arimidex can be bad for your lipid profile, and there are some questions as to wether or not it causes problems for your brain.

While on the subject, in my opinion HCG is completely worthless in PCT. It is very counterproductive to allwoing your body to rebalance its HPTA.

 

[Bonkme2]

While on the subject, in my opinion HCG is completely worthless in PCT. It is very counterproductive to allwoing your body to rebalance its HPTA.

You're not going to make any friends with that one.

I'd like to hear more. Could you elaborate a little? That certainly goes against what (I thought) science and most people believe.

 

[buckwheat1]

I think that using a-dex can be worthwhile at the end of the cycle. I would imagine that if you were on an aromatizing drug like test that you will have elevated levels of both SHBG and the aromatise enzyme. As you start, to produce test, it will likely be bound up or converted to estrogen. So preventing the estrogen conversion will eventually lower SHBG.

I am not sure how long it takes for SHBG to be lowered or aromatise to be reduced. But I would think that keeping estrogen as low as possible for a couple of weeks would be beneficial. Nolvadex of course doesn't actually reduce estrogen so will not have a immediate effect on SHBG.

 

[buckwheat1]

Alot of bad advice on this thread. Pseudo sciene BS.

Arimidex is a perfectly viable option for pct. In fact in my opinion it works better than most regiments. It makes you feel sick sometimes though. Also, there are health concerns with arimidex that might not exist with nolvadex. Arimidex can be bad for your lipid profile, and there are some questions as to wether or not it causes problems for your brain.

While on the subject, in my opinion HCG is completely worthless in PCT. It is very counterproductive to allwoing your body to rebalance its HPTA.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

Alot of bad advice on this thread. Pseudo sciene BS.

Arimidex is a perfectly viable option for pct. In fact in my opinion it works better than most regiments. It makes you feel sick sometimes though. Also, there are health concerns with arimidex that might not exist with nolvadex. Arimidex can be bad for your lipid profile, and there are some questions as to wether or not it causes problems for your brain.

While on the subject, in my opinion HCG is completely worthless in PCT. It is very counterproductive to allwoing your body to rebalance its HPTA.

justify your statements.

this isnt about making friends, but if you want to call bullshit, be prepared for people calling bullshit on your bullshit.

it seems you are saying that using an anti aromatic in lieu of an anti e during pct to offset the plummet in test is viable...which would be a pretty silly thing to say....

 

[Frango]

From AF Consensus on recovery

A r i m i d e x
A powerful aromatize inhibitor shall be part of every cycle. For testosterone recovery it is used to keep the testosterone/ estrogen balance in favor of testosterone. It is also of help to keep any additionally occurring estrogen from dbol and Androgel low to none. Studies have shown a 54% increase of testosterone in eugonadal patients

http://www.anabolicfitness.net/library/recovery.htm

 

[thx9000]

From AF Consensus on recovery

A r i m i d e x
A powerful aromatize inhibitor shall be part of every cycle. For testosterone recovery it is used to keep the testosterone/ estrogen balance in favor of testosterone. It is also of help to keep any additionally occurring estrogen from dbol and Androgel low to none. Studies have shown a 54% increase of testosterone in eugonadal patients

http://www.anabolicfitness.net/library/recovery.htm

You are not in a eugonadal state post-cycle, and, btw, that's refering to a study group of 15 men over the age of 65.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

From AF Consensus on recovery

A r i m i d e x
A powerful aromatize inhibitor shall be part of every cycle. For testosterone recovery it is used to keep the testosterone/ estrogen balance in favor of testosterone. It is also of help to keep any additionally occurring estrogen from dbol and Androgel low to none. Studies have shown a 54% increase of testosterone in eugonadal patients

http://www.anabolicfitness.net/library/recovery.htm

a part of, sure, but we are talking about post cycle. an anti e will do what arimidex might do, but better, faster, and more predictably