Never said they were IP dude. they are from china though. i guarantee it. that is my opinion, as was the fact of T200 being a brand name for brovel test. sorry you are so against the grain around here and i am one to point it out. lets ask the members about what T200 means to them.......bet your ass i'd win. as for these being chinese, again.....i think consensus is that they are made in china. i'll state my opinion when and where i want, and will not pussyfoot around you.