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Aratest - first cycle?

Alot of people are going to tell you that your 1st cycle should be TEST ONLY. I strongly disagree.

You never know how your body will react to each compound. Rather than risk GYNO, acne, and hairloss, start out wirh something very mild like Anavar or Primobolan, so that you can assess your individual tolerance. (In my circumstance as a fitness model, I could never risk using test, as GYNO, acne or hairloss would RUIN my career)

The two compounds I mentioned can not aromatize or aphpa-5 reduce to DHT. Typical steroid side-effects are RARE. Furthermore, endocrine function should be fully restored very quickly.

Run the Var at 49mgs for 8 weeks, or the Primo (enanthate) at 500mgs for 10-12.

Good luck BUD!
 
RossLovesMoney said:
Alot of people are going to tell you that your 1st cycle should be TEST ONLY. I strongly disagree.

You never know how your body will react to each compound. Rather than risk GYNO, acne, and hairloss, start out wirh something very mild like Anavar or Primobolan, so that you can assess your individual tolerance. (In my circumstance as a fitness model, I could never risk using test, as GYNO, acne or hairloss would RUIN my career)

The two compounds I mentioned can not aromatize or aphpa-5 reduce to DHT. Typical steroid side-effects are RARE. Furthermore, endocrine function should be fully restored very quickly.

Run the Var at 49mgs for 8 weeks, or the Primo (enanthate) at 500mgs for 10-12.

Good luck BUD!
Thanks for some solid advice man. Only problem is I already tried Var and Dbol (different occasions) at low doses and within a few day felt toxicity from both. I've had some high liver values in the past (partied like a rock star back in the day) so I think orals are out of the question. Although, I've heard primo (tabs) isn't 17aa, so would it be ok on the liver?

I would rather stick to orals, but from what I'm told injections would be better choice due to hepatoxicity concerns.

Thanks again.

Sniz
 
snizsniffer said:
Thanks for some solid advice man. Only problem is I already tried Var and Dbol (different occasions) at low doses and within a few day felt toxicity from both. I've had some high liver values in the past (partied like a rock star back in the day) so I think orals are out of the question. Although, I've heard primo (tabs) isn't 17aa, so would it be ok on the liver?

I would rather stick to orals, but from what I'm told injections would be better choice due to hepatoxicity concerns.

Thanks again.

Sniz

Well everyone has a different body, so its always best to be safe and check your liver values by a doctor.

I THINK however, that hepatoxicity is somewhat overstated based on my experiences.

If you can not run orals, run INJECTABLE PRIMO(enanthate)! It is better than var for Lean mass, but not as good for strength. Equally safe and effective.

Give it a shot.
 
RossLovesMoney said:
Well everyone has a different body, so its always best to be safe and check your liver values by a doctor.

I THINK however, that hepatoxicity is somewhat overstated based on my experiences.

If you can not run orals, run INJECTABLE PRIMO(enanthate)! It is better than var for Lean mass, but not as good for strength. Equally safe and effective.

Give it a shot.
Liver values are fine now, think there was damage done so capacity to filter is low.

So primo injectable for 10-12 weeks at 500mg/wk? Is that once a week? Any PCT needed?

From your avatar, thats about how i'd like to look. Have the same build as you, just not as cut and not quite as big. If thats the look primo produces, i'll give it a try.

My stats:
31yrs
5'9"
198lbs
11-13% bf
lifting consist for 5 yrs (7 more before that off/on)

Hope I can find it, seems like it may be hard to come accross.

Thanks again man.

Sniz
 
snizsniffer said:
Liver values are fine now, think there was damage done so capacity to filter is low.

So primo injectable for 10-12 weeks at 500mg/wk? Is that once a week? Any PCT needed?

From your avatar, thats about how i'd like to look. Have the same build as you, just not as cut and not quite as big. If thats the look primo produces, i'll give it a try.

My stats:
31yrs
5'9"
198lbs
11-13% bf
lifting consist for 5 yrs (7 more before that off/on)

Hope I can find it, seems like it may be hard to come accross.

Thanks again man.

Sniz
Perfect cycle..

As for PCT, I don't use CLOMID or Nolva....they are estrogens which also have opthomological sides(they screw with your vision). I ONLY use Tribestan(or Tribex) and a POTENT eurycoma Longfolia extract called Red Kat. I always feel great within days.

Good luck bud.
 
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