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Anyone use AS to help them while training for Motocross?
- Thread starter Cobra50
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COBRA~
youre not gonna get much help for motocross from AS. Funny question though. Try puting it in your tank.
Actually, the training style you need is plyometrics, ever heard of it? serioulsy,it will help your endurance alot. I know the demands of Moto-x.. If you need help with plyo workouts let me know I'll get ya some info
youre not gonna get much help for motocross from AS. Funny question though. Try puting it in your tank.
Actually, the training style you need is plyometrics, ever heard of it? serioulsy,it will help your endurance alot. I know the demands of Moto-x.. If you need help with plyo workouts let me know I'll get ya some info
)FullCircle
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Well, for a straight answer... (to add to what momwarndu said). Any steroids would be a bad idea during the season because of the horrible arm pumps you'll get during the race, and likely leg pump. It will actually hurt your endurance during the cycle. Plyometrics good training. If you are gonna lift, do it off season. The pro's I know, ad have talked to say they don't lift heavy during the season, and that was emphasized t ome by Rodney Smith (GNCC). Reason being injury potential, and soreness. During the season, best thing to do is ride 3-5 times a week, and do cardio. Doing forearm stretches, and maybe forearem curls with light-medium weights twice a week with help build arm strength/endurance.
And for all you assholes that are ignorant to hell, or just post stupid remarks to get your post counter up, you need to get a life. ITs sad if you have nothing better to do than crack on people who ask an honest question. FWIW, the only time you ever sit on a bike in a race is in corners and on the straights....legs are a crucial part of the suspension.
And for all you assholes that are ignorant to hell, or just post stupid remarks to get your post counter up, you need to get a life. ITs sad if you have nothing better to do than crack on people who ask an honest question. FWIW, the only time you ever sit on a bike in a race is in corners and on the straights....legs are a crucial part of the suspension.
nautica
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mike001 said:
Yes, I have and unlike 99% of most of anabolic users, I did not stack it with anything.
I was in the NCAA and I needed speed and strength with as little size gains as possible. I gained no weight. My bench press went from 250 lbs to 350 lbs. and My 40 time went from. 4:6 to 4.3.
It may not directly help for endurance but the more strenth you have to handle your own body weight. Than the less you will have to work; therefore, making it easier to stay stronger longer.
motocross
I spent my whole life racing motocross, and all I can tell you is that roids and moto dont mix. If you get arm pump during moto, it will be 10 times worse on gear. The last time I raced while in the middle of a cycle, I was miserable. I couldnt move my fingers after about five minutes.
I spent my whole life racing motocross, and all I can tell you is that roids and moto dont mix. If you get arm pump during moto, it will be 10 times worse on gear. The last time I raced while in the middle of a cycle, I was miserable. I couldnt move my fingers after about five minutes.
dawookie
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I raced motocross out in Vegas while I was a teen..
Used to race, practice w/ Carey Hart (now he does Freestyle MX)..
Most of the motox guys are little guys.. I was an exception at 6'3".. You want to be strong enough to handle the bike but you can reach that point without AS.. What you really want to focus on is endurance.. you need to be able to pound your body for 30-45 minutes at a time.. This kind of abuse tears the muscle down more than it builds it..
AS may help with the healing process after taking a few spills.. I doubt many of the motox guys are on as, maybe some speed or thermogenics tho to stay alert.
Used to race, practice w/ Carey Hart (now he does Freestyle MX)..
Most of the motox guys are little guys.. I was an exception at 6'3".. You want to be strong enough to handle the bike but you can reach that point without AS.. What you really want to focus on is endurance.. you need to be able to pound your body for 30-45 minutes at a time.. This kind of abuse tears the muscle down more than it builds it..
AS may help with the healing process after taking a few spills.. I doubt many of the motox guys are on as, maybe some speed or thermogenics tho to stay alert.
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dballer
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don't mess with the gear.. just buy my bike and you will be fine.
Manilla Gorilla
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Dawookie said:
How is Carey doing after his wreck at the X Games? Haven't heard anything about him since then.
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dballer
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I think so.
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dballer
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Does anyone else ride dirtbikes???
dawookie
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Manilla Gorilla said:
This Xgames wreck wasnt the worst hes had.. He broke ankle and ribs..
I raced w/ him in Cali back in 88 and he got turned sideways in the air and broke his arm.. That was his first break and he was out for nearly 6 months.. His dad used to build our practice tracks in Green Valley, NV.. now his dad builds the gravity games track..
At one race that his dad built the track the promoter sent him around for a test run to see what the track times were, he got mad air on a tabletop and came down on top of a bulldozer cleaning up the backside of the jump.. He broke both legs, and I think his back on that one..
I moved to FLA in 90 and havent raced since..we dont have the terrain to mx here, mostly sugar sand and no mountains.. Carey's the only one from our youth that made it anywhere with MX..
dawookie
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Not much beats clearing a set of doubles, triples, or a tabletop..
or getting so much air that your bike bottoms out when you land..
I raced it all before I even knew about AS and was so into it I would run 50 minutes a day, do 300 situps, 100 pushups, 15 minutes wall-sitting.. this is when I was 8-15 years old..
or getting so much air that your bike bottoms out when you land..
I raced it all before I even knew about AS and was so into it I would run 50 minutes a day, do 300 situps, 100 pushups, 15 minutes wall-sitting.. this is when I was 8-15 years old..
Thanks Mom and fullcircle yall thanks for you info. I was affraid of the armpump factor. One of my buddys was telling me about that factor. Actually I would be racing the GNCC's. My problem 3yrs ago was endurance when racing them, I could hang with the Pro guys for about 2 or 3 miles but did not have the stamina to keep up the pace they were running. The only training I was doing then though was riding 2-3 times a week. Im about to get a bike again soon and want to do it right this time.
Hey don't listen to most of these guys especially the ones who never rode bikes. AS would definitely help.. Motocross is a very tiring sport and believe it or not you have to be in excellent shape to be a pro rider... Now the question was which AS to use.. I would use AS that give you strength without the mass..
Ex. Winstrol, Fina, Halo, Prop, etc...
Ex. Winstrol, Fina, Halo, Prop, etc...
moto
I've raced as an intermediate for the last 2 years, and I can tell you from my experience that arm pump will be severe if you are on gear while racing. As far as endurance goes, riding 30-45 minute motos 4-5 days a week and running regularly will get you into shape fast. No need for drugs. Most of the guys that I know taking gear just did it to look good off the track, and it probably hurt their performance more than it helped.
I've raced as an intermediate for the last 2 years, and I can tell you from my experience that arm pump will be severe if you are on gear while racing. As far as endurance goes, riding 30-45 minute motos 4-5 days a week and running regularly will get you into shape fast. No need for drugs. Most of the guys that I know taking gear just did it to look good off the track, and it probably hurt their performance more than it helped.
moto-racer-1
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I do Cardio 3-4x's a week and ride as often as i can ( 2 maybe 3x's a week). I believe i have decent endurance. ( next race on Sept. 30th, cant wait!) I love moto-x, but ocassionally i jump into a hair scramble. 2 hrs of constant racing through the woods. Hella good for endurance!! I ride a '01 YZ 426! Gotta love those 4-strokes
Dont know about gear though, havent done any, YET!!!
Dont know about gear though, havent done any, YET!!!
nautica
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Enzo250 said:
That is what the hell I have been trying to say but no one seems to be listening.
Afraid of Arm pumps. Fuck. If you work out and get in shape than the arm pumps will not be a problem.
All atheletes can benefit by using AS. Maybe the people on this board don't consider motocross an athletic event. If it isn't then all of you are probably right. Just get a faster bike.
Cobra50, if you really want to get radical, than you might consider blood doping. THAT IS IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GET RADICAL.
As far as AS: My suggestion would be Winstrol as noted before. But the Halo would definately give you a mental edge. Just be careful that it doesnt make you too aggressive.
Well, Here's another thing that may be a problem
Besides the arm pumps...which will be worse,
There is also the danger to your liver and
kidney's from dehydration. I know I lost a
lost of water weight everytime I raced and several
of these AS being recommended are not exactly
kind to already stressed liver's and kidney's.
Just a thought.....
Besides the arm pumps...which will be worse,
There is also the danger to your liver and
kidney's from dehydration. I know I lost a
lost of water weight everytime I raced and several
of these AS being recommended are not exactly
kind to already stressed liver's and kidney's.
Just a thought.....
Enigmaxxx7
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Angelle Seling (Savoie now) lives next to me. She is the Number 1 ranked NHRA Pro Stock Motorcycle racer in the world ( http://www.angelleracing.com/angelle.htm ).
Anyway, this chick kicks all the guys' ass on the track and she goes to my gym. I know for a fact the only cycle she's ever done is Suzuki. No AS.
Anyway, this chick kicks all the guys' ass on the track and she goes to my gym. I know for a fact the only cycle she's ever done is Suzuki. No AS.
nautica
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Binky said:
True. I think anyone on AS. Should up there water intake to 2 gallons a day. And probably more if you are doing a sport which will dehydrate you. Also some cod liver oil, primrose oil, milk thistle and other supplements, should help. The key is to educate yourself before you do AS, Not after it is too late.
And like I said you are not going to do AS so you can be massive. It is all about being able to handle you own body weight for a long duration.
dawookie
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I guess winny would be a good choice if you are dead-set on doing AS with endurance sports.. Joints may become an issue though. Size wouldnt benefit you as an mx racer..
Take horseracing, you get the smallest mf you can find to get on the horse, its the same with mx, the larger you are, the more weight you have to throw around.. strength isnt going to hurt you in any sport imo..
Take horseracing, you get the smallest mf you can find to get on the horse, its the same with mx, the larger you are, the more weight you have to throw around.. strength isnt going to hurt you in any sport imo..
I know a couple of you mentioned that arm pump isnt a big deal, but some people get bad arm pump without gear (even if they are in great shape) Some people hold on too tight.....I had a serious problem with this for years. When combined with AS, the pumps were severe. If you dont suffer from arm pump now, than maybe AS wont be a problem for you. I was just giving my personal experience with gear and moto. I know that alot of guys didnt even train their foremarms because it dramatically increased pump in that area.
I wouldnt fuck with blood doping.....unless you want to die. Not worth it for motocross, IMO.
I wouldnt fuck with blood doping.....unless you want to die. Not worth it for motocross, IMO.
Hey Cobra50 I know what you are saying bro. I raced Quads MX/Hear scrambles for about 5 years and I understand the arm pump. A MX quad weighs about 300 lb. and it is tuff to be throwing in to a corner and across a triple. Any way I know how you bike guys think of Quad's So I will stop there.
I suggest taking Deca every week at about 400 to 600mg's. The reason I think this is just for the fact that it is very safe and easy to use AS. It also is a great joint lubricator. Im sure you have had some achy knees after a good hard motto. Any way that's my 2 cent's.
I suggest taking Deca every week at about 400 to 600mg's. The reason I think this is just for the fact that it is very safe and easy to use AS. It also is a great joint lubricator. Im sure you have had some achy knees after a good hard motto. Any way that's my 2 cent's.
