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Anyone know a typical Coleman/Cutler/etc cycle?

Audio8 I really can't say for sure but I once heard that Ronnie took 1/2 of a 126 serotism gh kit a week not to mention he is probably on 2-3 grams of test a week also.
 
A tthat level there always on something, and in most cases more then you'd believe. They have typically hit the stage of abuse.
 
Coleman is doing some new stuff....rumor has it here in Dallas. He is very, very secretive about it, and often goes overseas offseason. I see him, and his training group all the time, but they're not saying a word.
 
They take leutinizing hormones. Really new and not very much known about them but the shit obviously rocks so I've heard.

WRJ
 
The man to ask would be Chad Nichols. but he wont tell unless you are a top level competitor and he works with you. And cycle is probably not the right word.
 
so i guess it's just a big damn mystery then. all the pro's don't want to give there "secret ingedient" away. understandable.
 
Hbone said:
Most of us could not afford thier "supplement" bill.
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You're right...it's probably close to $50,000 per year, if not more...and they proabably get better prices than any of us have ever heard of.
 
rrwwdd said:
A tthat level there always on something, and in most cases more then you'd believe. They have typically hit the stage of abuse.
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This gets my vote for understatement of the year award.
 
They probably use a lot of different drugs and probably at fairly high doses. However the drugs are not the reason that they are as good as they are. There are many out there who probably use as much or more drugs then Ronnie and can not even step on a state level stage and do well. These top pros react unusually well to anabolics and for the most part all they do is eat sleep and train. People like to point to the drug use as a reason why someone is a good bodybuilder and they are not as good. It is mostly a case of jealousy. It even happens in your every day gym. If a guy walks in and looks really good right away there will be some little dude come out with the "if I took as many drugs as him I would be just as big" comment. Forget the time spent in the gym, the consistant eating of 6-7 meals a day, the strain bodybuilding puts on relationships ect., ect. The little guy can make himself feel better by believing that all it takes is the willingness to use anabolic drugs. That way he can continue going to the gym, making no progress because he does not know anything about training or nutrtion and still feel good about himself. Credit must be given where credit is due and drugs or no drugs Ronnie Coleman is an unbelievable sight.
 
well said pgerardone, that statement is very true it takes alot of HARD work to get there, true aas does have a advantage BUT...their daily routine is far from ordinary
 
IL-15 is not very common, but common among elite level bb's. Greg Zulak swears by the stuff. Extremely expensive though. Ive got a musclemag from last year where he describes the product. Im sure you can do a search to find out info. If not than ill post the article when i get home. If you cant find this on the search, post a q and some people will have to know what it is exactly.
 
pgerardone has got it exactly , you give a couch potatoe a pile of AS and he won't build muscle. It's the training , dieting and resting that makes best use of the any anabolic hormone.

If you look at the backgrounds of the top pro bodybuilders you will notice a couple of things they all have in common: They all developed muscle very quickly , they all looked good and musculer even without lifting weights or after lifting weights for a short period of time , they all have fast metbolisms , and they are all very detirmined and are obsessed with being the best.

Without these qualitys you will never be Mr.O no matter how much AS you use.

And as for the IL-15 there is not musch information on it , I'm sure there are some little known drugs that some top BB's are using to get massive but the reality is they look as unearthly as they do because of all the years of muscle development ... not because they spent 6 months using some super drug and become monsters over night.
 
what cycle

those guys are natural they train hard, 20grams of Glutamine per day and 25grams of creatine/day plus ZMA, and Hydroxycut and about 500grams of Whey protein. So stop being Jealous of them.
 
pgerardone said:
They probably use a lot of different drugs and probably at fairly high doses. However the drugs are not the reason that they are as good as they are. There are many out there who probably use as much or more drugs then Ronnie and can not even step on a state level stage and do well. These top pros react unusually well to anabolics and for the most part all they do is eat sleep and train. People like to point to the drug use as a reason why someone is a good bodybuilder and they are not as good. It is mostly a case of jealousy. It even happens in your every day gym. If a guy walks in and looks really good right away there will be some little dude come out with the "if I took as many drugs as him I would be just as big" comment. Forget the time spent in the gym, the consistant eating of 6-7 meals a day, the strain bodybuilding puts on relationships ect., ect. The little guy can make himself feel better by believing that all it takes is the willingness to use anabolic drugs. That way he can continue going to the gym, making no progress because he does not know anything about training or nutrtion and still feel good about himself. Credit must be given where credit is due and drugs or no drugs Ronnie Coleman is an unbelievable sight.
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Nice words bro :)
 
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