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What did you get from B12? More energy? Fat loss? Increased appetite? Would you say it is good only for bulking since its supposed to increase appetite. Also, what doses were taken?
Anybody here used B12?
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SuperDawgy
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I take a 1mg shot the night before leg day (1x per week). It does make me hungry for a few days after. Also reduces cramping if i'm on Winny.
So it reduces crampy while on Winny. is this a fact or your opinion? 1mg e3d?! But this is water based. It will be out of the body in hours. Wouldn't ED be better? But would you guys say it is better for bulking and not cutting because it does increase appetite. I don't think you want to eat like a MOFO on a cutting cycle right?
SuperDawgy
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Carth said:
Personal observation on the cramping. I can drink 2 gallons of water a day and still get leg cramps if i'm on winny. The B-12 somehow stops them. Hell, maybe it's just me? And when i'm cutting, my appetite goes way down because i go up 100gr on my protein...so i feel full most of the time. A little added hunger helps me out when i'm getting lean.
If I take Kyno...is there enough B12 in that? Or should I add B12 to the Kyno?
Good how? More energy? Better Mood? What?
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Retabolil2
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No, never... what is it? New steroid?Carth said:
season7445
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Retabolil2 said:No, never... what is it? New steroid?
All it is is an injectable form of Vitamin b-12.
season7445
BobbyBIGGS
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Carth said:
How much should you take milligram wise with the caplets?
On average B12 levels only increase about 1% when taken orally. (although better absorbtion is possible with the sublingual forms) Most people (except vegetarians) get plenty of B12 in their diet but there are factors that can prevent it from being utilized properly. Heres a long but pretty informative read.
The dietary absorption of vitamin B-12 is complex. It's not just a matter of swallowing a bunch of it (dietary or supplemental) and letting the guts do the work. There is something called "intrinsic factor" which is made in certain cells in the stomach that must be present in order for B-12 to be absorbed at a point in the very end of the small intestine (the ileum).
The main sources of B-12 include meat, eggs, and dairy products. Acids in the stomach separate the B-12 from the protein source, at which point it must combine with intrinsic factor. The vitamin B-12/intrinsic factor complex travels through the intestine and is absorbed in the terminal ileum by cells with specific receptors for the complex. The absorbed complex is then transported via plasma and stored in the liver. The interruption of one or any combination of these steps places a person at risk of developing deficiency.
In most cases, vitamin B-12 deficiency is due to an inability of the intestine
to absorb the vitamin, which can happen in several ways.
1. As we age or become overly reliant on acid suppressing agents like antacids, our ability to produce gastric acids in the stomach decreases, meaning that the B-12 is less likely to be released from its food source.
2. Deficiency may result from an autoimmune disease that reduces the production or blocks the action of intrinsic factor , or from other diseases that result in intestinal malabsorption. The most frequent underlying cause of vitamin B-12 deficiency is pernicious anemia, which is associated with decreased production of intrinsic factor.
3. Also, abdominal surgery may cause B-12 deficiency in several ways . Gastrectomy, for example, eliminates the site of intrinsic factor production. Blind loop syndrome results in competition for vitamin B-12 by bacterial overgrowth in the lumen of the small intestine. And surgical resection of the ileum eliminates the site of vitamin B-12 absorption.
4. Other causes of vitamin B-12 deficiency include pancreatic insufficiency ; fish tapeworm infection, in which the parasite competes for B-12; and severe Crohn's disease, which results in reduced absorption of B-12 in the intestine.
What Are Symptoms of B-12 Deficiency?
These are just some of the characteristic signs of vitamin B-12 deficiency, according to the National Institutes of Health.
Fatigue, weakness, nausea, constipation, irritability, incontinence,
dementia, numbness or tingling in the hands and feet, loss of appetite,
paleness, shortness of breath...
Untreated, the symptoms can become permanent and lead to abnormalities of growth and mental retardation in children and severe systemic disorders in adults.
Clinical Manifestations of Vitamin B-12 Deficiency
Hematologic
Megaloblastic anemia
Pancytopenia (leucopenia, thrombocytopenia)
Neurologic
Parethesias Peripheral neuropathy
Combined systems disease (demyelination of dorsal columns and corticospinal tract)
Psychiatric
Irritability, personality change
Mild memory impairment, dementia
Depression
Psychosis
Cardiovascular
Increased risk of myocardial infarction and stroke
LOL dont know if it helps ............maybe I should just go to bed.
http://www.wonderlabs.com/b12.php
http://www.aeiveos.com/diet/vitamin_b12/
The dietary absorption of vitamin B-12 is complex. It's not just a matter of swallowing a bunch of it (dietary or supplemental) and letting the guts do the work. There is something called "intrinsic factor" which is made in certain cells in the stomach that must be present in order for B-12 to be absorbed at a point in the very end of the small intestine (the ileum).
The main sources of B-12 include meat, eggs, and dairy products. Acids in the stomach separate the B-12 from the protein source, at which point it must combine with intrinsic factor. The vitamin B-12/intrinsic factor complex travels through the intestine and is absorbed in the terminal ileum by cells with specific receptors for the complex. The absorbed complex is then transported via plasma and stored in the liver. The interruption of one or any combination of these steps places a person at risk of developing deficiency.
In most cases, vitamin B-12 deficiency is due to an inability of the intestine
to absorb the vitamin, which can happen in several ways.
1. As we age or become overly reliant on acid suppressing agents like antacids, our ability to produce gastric acids in the stomach decreases, meaning that the B-12 is less likely to be released from its food source.
2. Deficiency may result from an autoimmune disease that reduces the production or blocks the action of intrinsic factor , or from other diseases that result in intestinal malabsorption. The most frequent underlying cause of vitamin B-12 deficiency is pernicious anemia, which is associated with decreased production of intrinsic factor.
3. Also, abdominal surgery may cause B-12 deficiency in several ways . Gastrectomy, for example, eliminates the site of intrinsic factor production. Blind loop syndrome results in competition for vitamin B-12 by bacterial overgrowth in the lumen of the small intestine. And surgical resection of the ileum eliminates the site of vitamin B-12 absorption.
4. Other causes of vitamin B-12 deficiency include pancreatic insufficiency ; fish tapeworm infection, in which the parasite competes for B-12; and severe Crohn's disease, which results in reduced absorption of B-12 in the intestine.
What Are Symptoms of B-12 Deficiency?
These are just some of the characteristic signs of vitamin B-12 deficiency, according to the National Institutes of Health.
Fatigue, weakness, nausea, constipation, irritability, incontinence,
dementia, numbness or tingling in the hands and feet, loss of appetite,
paleness, shortness of breath...
Untreated, the symptoms can become permanent and lead to abnormalities of growth and mental retardation in children and severe systemic disorders in adults.
Clinical Manifestations of Vitamin B-12 Deficiency
Hematologic
Megaloblastic anemia
Pancytopenia (leucopenia, thrombocytopenia)
Neurologic
Parethesias Peripheral neuropathy
Combined systems disease (demyelination of dorsal columns and corticospinal tract)
Psychiatric
Irritability, personality change
Mild memory impairment, dementia
Depression
Psychosis
Cardiovascular
Increased risk of myocardial infarction and stroke
LOL dont know if it helps ............maybe I should just go to bed.
http://www.wonderlabs.com/b12.php
http://www.aeiveos.com/diet/vitamin_b12/
By the way I notice that most of the injectable thats available is cyanocobalmin. I read that the prescribed form is hydroxycyanocobalmin and thats is much more bioavailable to the body. Anyone see this for sale anywhere? In addition my reading is leading me to believe that perhaps I should supplement with B6 and folic acid while on B12....anyone have info to share on that?
Retabolil2
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I`m with stupid you knowseason7445 said:
also I live in the woods and never seen those red amps before Oh yeah bears are walking down the streets here too 
