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Any you bros drunk Winnie before?? If so.....

NASTY, i have heard mix reports on it though. i was tired of shooting it in my ass so i downed 50 mg and quicly decided not to do it again, it tastes like soap. and rthe taste isnt easy to get rid of
 
YUP..........and HIDES the taste!!!

The ORAL version is prolly somewhere between 20-30% LESS effective per MG. My guess would be 20% if taken with Narginin (grapefruit juice) as THIS improves oral biovalibility.
 
drveejay11 YUP..........and HIDES the taste!!!

The ORAL version is prolly somewhere between 20-30% LESS effective per MG. My guess would be 20% if taken with Narginin (grapefruit juice) as THIS improves oral biovalibility.



True a little less effective by oral administration, but I got a nasty scar on the side of my leg caused by a nasty abcess. The abcess was caused by winny. So ever sense I've been gun shy of injecting it.:)
 
it's not all that bad. It does taste nasty and it's a little gritty, but just wash it down with some water and it goes away. i would rather drink winny than nyquil anyday. nyquil is waaaaay worse :D
 
liftsiron said:
drveejay11 YUP..........and HIDES the taste!!!

The ORAL version is prolly somewhere between 20-30% LESS effective per MG. My guess would be 20% if taken with Narginin (grapefruit juice) as THIS improves oral biovalibility.



True a little less effective by oral administration, but I got a nasty scar on the side of my leg caused by a nasty abcess. The abcess was caused by winny. So ever sense I've been gun shy of injecting it.:)

yeah it tastes shitty. but not so bad unless your a sissy :p: and thanks liftsiron for telling me about the abcess from winny since i was debating injecting it this time around. i guess i'll drink the zambons or get the 50mg BD tabs. i can't handle the thought of some nasty shit like that!
 
Be a man and just inject it. You get better absorbsion, and alot of experts believe winstrol causes signifigant site injections benefits.
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
Be a man and just inject it. You get better absorbsion, and alot of experts believe winstrol causes signifigant site injections benefits.

well i'm def being a man shooting 4X a week for 12 weeks.....but i'd like to be a man without a nasty infection/abcess. :) i can do ED or EOD shots no prob.....done that many times, just the thought of injecting water based is not a good idea to me. but if it mixes with fina/deca 100mg/1cc each....i'll probably just shoot it with a 3cc shot 4X per week. yes fina/deca together...lol...:D
 
BodyByFinaplix said:


Have you tried oiled based stano? You don't have the same issues as with water-based.

no, i can just get zambon amps or BD 50mg tabs.
 
Bad Black said:


well i'm def being a man shooting 4X a week for 12 weeks.....but i'd like to be a man without a nasty infection/abcess. :) i can do ED or EOD shots no prob.....done that many times, just the thought of injecting water based is not a good idea to me. but if it mixes with fina/deca 100mg/1cc each....i'll probably just shoot it with a 3cc shot 4X per week. yes fina/deca together...lol...:D

Have you tried oiled based stano? You don't have the same issues as with water-based.
 
Bad Black said:


no, i can just get zambon amps or BD 50mg tabs.

Do you have a good source for powders? If so you can make your own oiled based stano. I'm an oil-based right now. Very nice, I can mix it with my tren, predosed for my daily shot with on injection. Very convenient.
 
as posted by Bigsonrising
no, but i banged a chick named wendy when I was drunk..Does that count?

lol :D


as posted by Bodybyfinaplix
Do you have a good source for powders? If so you can make your own oiled based stano. I'm an oil-based right now. Very nice, I can mix it with my tren, predosed for my daily shot with on injection. Very convenient.

Thats a very neat idea, good thinking bro!
 
BodyByFinaplix said:


Do you have a good source for powders? If so you can make your own oiled based stano. I'm an oil-based right now. Very nice, I can mix it with my tren, predosed for my daily shot with on injection. Very convenient.

so whats up with tren/winny(water base) and deca/winny (waterbased) mixes for shots??????
 
Bad Black said:


so whats up with tren/winny(water base) and deca/winny (waterbased) mixes for shots??????

It works, but not as nicely as with oil-based. With the oil based you mix the two into one bottle and you are done. WIth the water-oil combo you have to draw seperately and mix each time, plus you have the irritation from using a water-based. Stano does not require water to be effctive. It works equally well in an oil solution, though some feel it slows the release of the compound slightly.
 
BodyByFinaplix said:


It works, but not as nicely as with oil-based. With the oil based you mix the two into one bottle and you are done. WIth the water-oil combo you have to draw seperately and mix each time, plus you have the irritation from using a water-based. Stano does not require water to be effctive. It works equally well in an oil solution, though some feel it slows the release of the compound slightly.

so it would be unwise to draw out the deca for example from the amp....then draw the winny out of the amp into the same syringe? or are you supposed to mix them in some other fashion?
 
bodyby fina, i don't know if you read that or heard that somewhere, but lots of data has shown that when winstrol is taken orally , it is better absorbed by the GI tract, and is a lot better than injections. It's actually the opposite, you get better absorption, and you loose at least 5% of it when injected. Reality is that the 5% doesn't matter much, but if i have to choose between drinking it everday and shooting it everday, I think the choice is obvious.
 
str8cubano bodyby fina, i don't know if you read that or heard that somewhere, but lots of data has shown that when winstrol is taken orally , it is better absorbed by the GI tract, and is a lot better than injections. It's actually the opposite, you get better absorption, and you loose at least 5% of it when injected. Reality is that the 5% doesn't matter much, but if i have to choose between drinking it everday and shooting it everday, I think the choice is obvious.


I get real good results by drinking the shit. And Bad Black I don't think you need to worry about infection from legit zambons. I got my problems from a multi dose vial of dankell.
 
Another thing Bad Black zambons are real handy, because you can carry the single dose vials around in your pocket and whenever you get the urge for a dose. Just pop one of those little suckers into your mouth and chew it up.:)
 
liftsiron said:
Another thing Bad Black zambons are real handy, because you can carry the single dose vials around in your pocket and whenever you get the urge for a dose. Just pop one of those little suckers into your mouth and chew it up.:)

yeah i know, i got a friend who carried around his 1000 count bottles of BD dbols and winny's for a few days in his pockets he was so proud of them. lol. i always got some kind of pills or something rolled up in foil in my pocket. i'll probably just drink 'em or get the BD tabs, one zambon is $8 and one BD tab is $2 (both 50mg).....so not sure if the zambon is worth 4X the price.
 
yeah i know, i got a friend who carried around his 1000 count bottles of BD dbols and winny's for a few days in his pockets he was so proud of them. lol. i always got some kind of pills or something rolled up in foil in my pocket. i'll probably just drink 'em or get the BD tabs, one zambon is $8 and one BD tab is $2 (both 50mg).....so not sure if the zambon is worth 4X the price.


But if you chew the zambons, the glass chards insure better absorbtion.:)
 
liftsiron said:



But if you chew the zambons, the glass chards insure better absorbtion.:)

don't say that or someone will eat the amp and blame you for the ER visit. :D there are people like that around you know. :alien:
 
str8cubano said:
bodyby fina, i don't know if you read that or heard that somewhere, but lots of data has shown that when winstrol is taken orally , it is better absorbed by the GI tract, and is a lot better than injections. It's actually the opposite, you get better absorption, and you loose at least 5% of it when injected. Reality is that the 5% doesn't matter much, but if i have to choose between drinking it everday and shooting it everday, I think the choice is obvious.

To my knowledge you are incorrect. You get a lower absorbsion into the bloodstream by taking it orally. Logic would dictate this.
 
Bad Black said:


don't say that or someone will eat the amp and blame you for the ER visit. :D there are people like that around you know. :alien:

Very true, there are alot of extemely nieve and gullible kids who use gear where I am.
 
BodyByFinaplix said:


Very true, there are alot of extemely nieve and gullible kids who use gear where I am.

i'll have a word with liftsiron in private about his conduct on the board. ;) lol.

BTW: i heard that the inject is somewhat more effective...like around the 20% range??? but i have had great results on oral winny.....even the little blue IP's, they were probably the best stuff. i took two a day though, so that would probably be the reason why. near 100mg, a bit on the overdose side.
 
Big black, or you could just make a 5 gram bottle of your own oil based for $100, if $$$ is an issue.
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
Big black, or you could just make a 5 gram bottle of your own oil based for $100, if $$$ is an issue.

i'm an idiot when it comes to brewing up gear. i have a few guys i know make my fina for me even :D. no big deal on the money, but wondered if zambon oral vrs BD oral was any big difference? that was the real question i had.
 
OK OK I'll retract my previous statement. KIDS DO NOT EAT GLASS, GLASS IS BAD, EATING GLASS IS REALLY REALLY BAD.
 
memnoch said:
it's not all that bad. It does taste nasty and it's a little gritty, but just wash it down with some water and it goes away. i would rather drink winny than nyquil anyday. nyquil is waaaaay worse :D

Yes and Nyquil is harder on your liver than Anadrol Halo and Dball combined.
Alcohol + Tylenol= bad news for the liver....
 
liftsiron said:
OK OK I'll retract my previous statement. KIDS DO NOT EAT GLASS, GLASS IS BAD, EATING GLASS IS REALLY REALLY BAD.


:FRlol: only leave glass eating to the veterans like liftsiron. matter of fact leave glass eating to ONLY liftsiron. :D
 
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