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Buddy_Christ
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posted 3x?
sorry, no. whatcha trying to build anyway?
sorry, no. whatcha trying to build anyway?
I fuct up posting it in the wrong forum and tried to move it.
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Gambino
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Buy a book on drywall and wood/metal framing...good books at Home Depot or Lowes, these two categories will give you a good base of knowledge...
bran987
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Gambino said:
Thanks Gambino.. I will do that.
what do you think of these?
http://www.b4ubuild.com/videos/index.shtml
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Gambino
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Bran987 said:
Fuck videos and such, to hard to reference...books are a lot more handy, esp if you plan on doing actually building...you will want a quick reference. Those dvds were about masonry and patio building...I think you want more of what I recommended...btw building is a excellent trade to know...
bran987
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Well I'd like to learn the order of when everything goes in, how long each part takes, and also how it all fits together... we build pretty big stuff like high-rise
well here is one we are doing now, http://www.aqualb.com
and a few smaller ones in Houston
so I'm going to be out there and I'd just like to learn as much as I can, it's obviously a huge missing piece in my knowledge of real estate. that one above is concrete construction, but I assume most garden apartments are built with stick just like a single-family home, right?
well here is one we are doing now, http://www.aqualb.com
and a few smaller ones in Houston
so I'm going to be out there and I'd just like to learn as much as I can, it's obviously a huge missing piece in my knowledge of real estate. that one above is concrete construction, but I assume most garden apartments are built with stick just like a single-family home, right?
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Gambino
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Bran987 said:
Bigger structures like those condos would require a lot of iron work...smaller apts and houses may use wood, but depending on the market, metal is sometimes used...
please excuse my ignorance
Bran987 said:
Nope, I just did a google search under books for contractors, and it looked like what you were wanting. Check this site out also, they have a lot of books on construction.
http://www.powells.com/subsection/ConstructionGeneral.html
Will you be in charge of that construction/timeframe of it? If so, prepare to pull hairs out. lol I`ve worked as an electrician on those types of jobsites and it`s hell for the achitects, managers, foremans to get everybody done in a timely manner. If it`s a Union job it may be different. Don`t know where you are.
Just look at the blueprints, they have everything that needs to be there IN the blueprint. Type of wood or metal, size, sheetrock needs etc... It calls for everything needed in there.
Just look at the blueprints, they have everything that needs to be there IN the blueprint. Type of wood or metal, size, sheetrock needs etc... It calls for everything needed in there.
bran987
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gonelifting said:
I won't be directly in charge, no. But I do want to know how to tell if the G.C. is doing a good job or not, and timeframe of how things should be moving along, and just to be able to speak with them on an intelligent level about construction in general.
We do have to deal with all of those problems indirectly because if the job doesn't get done on time, we run over budget on our interest reserve... people who bought pre-construction start to get antsy.. want to back out.. we look incompetent etc. etc....
blueprints.. so that would be this book:
http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=62-0934041059-0
Might be the best $15 I ever spent. Sometimes those things look like Greek to me.
Blueprints will tell you materials used but definately won`t help you in the time it should take for each phase to be finished. I understand you want to go in knowing your stuff but experience ON THE JOB will get you far. After a while you`ll understand how things work just by watching and talking with the GC. In the beginning, the GC will give a rosey picture of when he`s gonna finish. After a while when things bog down, he`ll start with the excuses. lol If you`re there watching, you`ll see the real reason why the job being held up.
Read your books but also, just ask the GC what his time tables are. We were alwys asked these questions. We were also asked "What`s coming next?" What`s happening after this is done?" "When will these 2 units get done?" Almost daily... and We were just the electricians!
Also, we did`nt do highrises. Our biggest was 44 units of townhouses.
Read your books but also, just ask the GC what his time tables are. We were alwys asked these questions. We were also asked "What`s coming next?" What`s happening after this is done?" "When will these 2 units get done?" Almost daily... and We were just the electricians!
Also, we did`nt do highrises. Our biggest was 44 units of townhouses.
bran987
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gonelifting said:
It doesn't matter that you didn't do highrise, this advice was invaluable. I went to the bookstore and picked up a few books to hopefully give me a headstart. I figured on the job training would be the best teacher but just wanted to make sure I don't sound like a total idiot
I will remember those questions!
Bran987 said:
I don't think you're going to come by that kind of education from a book. The best way is to hang out with the men who do that sort of thing for a living--professional estimators & schedulers. One good book to acquire for the basics of construction is the Architectural Graphic Standards. It goes for about $200 but it is worth it and covers just about everything related to construction and detailing.
Buddy_Christ
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gonelifting said:
probably the best way to learn. plus if you're doing the ordering of the supplies needed, you can try to pay attention to what comes in and how fast it's being used.
it's actually pretty cool that you want to learn how things are done. gaining knowledge can actually be fun. plus the fact that you want to learn these things shows you've got ambition instead of just sitting around going "oh, you want me to buy this next? ok, sure."
if you're going to be involved in these things for more than one or two builds, then just like learning anything else, start off slowly. ask what is planned to get done for the week for the first build or two. once you've started nailing that down, then probe for day by day details. at least doing it that way, you'll have a rough outline of how things should be going by the 3rd time and can fill in the blanks from there.
vinylgroover
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Bran,
Check out the construction Industry groups or professional bodies in your state or region. They should have good resorces for you to learn and they also have short courses such as introductory courses to give you a basic understanding of construction methods.
Other disciplines such as architecture and engineering are important and again, you should seek out the respective professional bodies/industry groups representing architects and engineers in your state or the U.S for learning resources.
The other important thing you need is also a good understanding of construction contracts, particularly D&C contracts.
Check out the construction Industry groups or professional bodies in your state or region. They should have good resorces for you to learn and they also have short courses such as introductory courses to give you a basic understanding of construction methods.
Other disciplines such as architecture and engineering are important and again, you should seek out the respective professional bodies/industry groups representing architects and engineers in your state or the U.S for learning resources.
The other important thing you need is also a good understanding of construction contracts, particularly D&C contracts.
