Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below i m in the middle of my second week of clomid theray.........this stuff is kickin' me in the ass emotionally. i'm SO down in the dumps and depressed, emotional.........the usual clomid side effects. i recognize the need for clomid post to keep gains and get T production going again.........but ....is there and alternative way with out these side effects?
any alternative to clomid?
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I don't think so, friend. Bare this in mind, a great deal of the psychological issues faced post cycle i.e. mild depressions are a result of significantly unbalanced hormonal levels....testosterone vs estrogen. Clomid in essence is working to ameliorate this condition. Just give it the appropriate amount of time to work for you and you will be ship shape
according to a reliable guy.........clomid is really not that good for you in regards to test production......yes it does temporarily boost it.....but LH hormone and others don't kick in.....so when you discontinue it....you crash again.
according to this person....therapy, lasts 4 weeks......if it is a mild cycle.
use nolvadex at 20 mgs aday for the first 2 weeks,
and 10 mgs a day for an additional 2 weeks.
you should keep estrogen at bay while your own test naturally kicks in.
according to this person....therapy, lasts 4 weeks......if it is a mild cycle.
use nolvadex at 20 mgs aday for the first 2 weeks,
and 10 mgs a day for an additional 2 weeks.
you should keep estrogen at bay while your own test naturally kicks in.
Omega, im not buying that nolva is superior. After all, nolva and clomid affect the system very similarly (ie they block estrogen receptors). Now I do believe that post cycle clomid use is a bandaid, but one of the main reasons recovery is slow is because the teste's have no been producing sperm or test. So while I do believe there is a bit of truth to haveing a crash after ending clomid, the crash is short and the body should kick in a hell of a lot faster since the teste's have been responding to the LH/FSH that the system has been fooled into producing.
On a side note, nolva greatly reduces igf-1 levels whereas clomid does not seem to adversly affect them to the same degree. Just because of that alone I would chose clomid over nolva any day.
On a side note, nolva greatly reduces igf-1 levels whereas clomid does not seem to adversly affect them to the same degree. Just because of that alone I would chose clomid over nolva any day.
Zyg................your knowledge i vastley superior to mine...........I am a relative beginer,but have done tons of research........so I am not saying that I am right.
since your online.............if someone were to do a dball cycle at 20 mgs a day, and 100 mgs of primobolan depot every 5 days................... for 8 weeks.
what would be an appropriate test therapy regimen in your eyes??????????
subjsct is 6"2 245 12%
1st real cycle
help appreciated
since your online.............if someone were to do a dball cycle at 20 mgs a day, and 100 mgs of primobolan depot every 5 days................... for 8 weeks.
what would be an appropriate test therapy regimen in your eyes??????????
subjsct is 6"2 245 12%
1st real cycle
help appreciated
If you can get testoviron or another high quality test I would prolly start at 500mg/wk, if you need to use brovel/tornel go with 600mg wk. Good idea to use anastrozole along with it.
I would prolly lay it out like this
week 1-4 dbol
week 1-8 test
week 3-10 primo
I would prolly lay it out like this
week 1-4 dbol
week 1-8 test
week 3-10 primo
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