Antisocial or just Weird

[Moderate_THIS]

It seems as if people are using this term way too liberally.

Antisocial
1. Shunning the society of others; not sociable.
2. Hostile to or disruptive of the established social order; marked by or engaging in behavior that violates accepted mores: gangs engaging in vandalism and other antisocial behavior.
3. Antagonistic toward or disrespectful of others; rude.

There are a few #3's but not a lot. I don't understand why this word gets thrown around these parts so often.

 

[Silent Method]

The word gets thrown around quite a bit.

From a true psycological perspective, antisocial personality disorder implies:

...a lack of regard for the moral or legal standards in the local culture. There is a marked inability to get along with others or abide by societal rules. Individuals with this disorder are sometimes called psychopaths or sociolpaths.


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Diagnostic Criteria ( DSM-IV™ )

1. Since the age of fifteen there has been a disregard for and violation of the right's of others, those right's considered normal by the local culture, as indicated by at least three of the following:
A. Repeated acts that could lead to arrest.

B. Conning for pleasure or profit, repeated lying, or the use of aliases.

C. Failure to plan ahead or being impulsive.

D. Repeated assaults on others.

E. Reckless when it comes to their or others safety.

F. Poor work behavior or failure to honor financial obligations.

G. Rationalizing the pain they inflict on others.

2. At least eighteen years in age.

3. Evidence of a Conduct Disorder, with its onset before the age of fifteen.

4. Symptoms not due to another mental disorder.

 

[juve]

^^above post is correct, my psychiatrist can back it up!

 

[Silent Method]

That's because your psychiatrist is licensed specifically to make official diagnoses within the confines of DSM-IV criteria.

 

[juve]

That's because she deemed me to be one, along with manic-depression

 

[Moderate_THIS]

So how is antisocial disorder treated?

 

[Silent Method]

For antisocial personality disorder specifically, psychotherapy.



Drugs may be prescribed to combat specific symptoms (such as antidepressants for related depression), but no their is no specific drug aimed at antisocial personality disorder.

 

[juve]

^^once again, correct!

I haven't been put on any psychoactives...yet

Are you in any way involved in this field? (addressing silent method)

 

[WODIN]

I hate people. What's the term for that?

 

[Silent Method]

^^once again, correct!

I haven't been put on any psychoactives...yet

Are you in any way involved in this field? (addressing silent method)

Psychology was my first major, one of many I didn't choose to finish.

I may go back to it later. Check out cyclothymic personality disorder. I have not seen a doctor nor been diagnosed, but I think it's very likely I have this disorder. One of the characteristics is "frequently shifts line of work, study, interest, or future plans." This IS me, along with most of the other characteristics.

 

[Silent Method]

BTW juve, considering your comorbid diagnosis I wouldn't be suprized if a medication is suggested for you in the future.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

I think sometimes I'm anti-social. I guess because i've always been o.k. and good with being alone. I can have fun either way I guess. I just don't go out in social situations, just to be 'out'. If its not something really fun or just half fun I'd rather stay home and watch a move or something.

 

[Moderate_THIS]

Juve/Silent

Is psychotherapy worthwhile treatment? How can they amend your personality? My mom made me go one for calling her a bitch and I didn't feel it did anything for me. Oh, and I love my mom and especially all your moms.

 

[Scotsman]

I hate people. What's the term for that?

I think it is being Scottish.

I know I generally hate people and prefer to be alone most of the time.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[BileStew]

So how is antisocial disorder treated?

Roofies followed by shots of Yegermeister and a session with William Hung singing She Bang!

 

[Moderate_THIS]

Roofies followed by shots of Yegermeister and a session with William Hung singing She Bang!

Sounds like a perfectly viable treatment

 

[BileStew]

Sounds like a perfectly viable treatment

And that's for just walking into the receptionist's office.

 

[FitFossil]

It seems as if people are using this term way too liberally...

I agree. There's a big difference between not being social and being anti-social, as that official diagnostic criteria printed above indicate. People who are very social are extroverts. They get their energy from being around others. Introverts prefer less social contact, depending on the degree of introversion. While introverts might enjoy certain social situations, they also find them to be very draining and need time alone to recharge.

Approximately 75% of the population are extroverts. This is why some people think introverts are weird. Extroverts tend to think while they're speaking, whereas introverts will always think before speaking. This is why introverts don't talk as much. People are often suspicious of introverts because they don't know what they're thinking. Like Abe Lincoln said "'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt." I'm an introvert, and people can think I'm weird if they want.

 

[Robert Jan]

You can diagnose a weirdo with whatever fancy name you want, hes still a weirdo.

Just like you can excuse a stupid person saying hes just dyslectic, discalculistic and has a concentration disorder, hes still gonna be stupid.

what happened to the world where the cross eyed are called cross eyed, the fat are called fat, the ugly are called ugly and the humpback is called hump

 

[juve]

Juve/Silent

Is psychotherapy worthwhile treatment? How can they amend your personality? My mom made me go one for calling her a bitch and I didn't feel it did anything for me. Oh, and I love my mom and especially all your moms.

I'd give you K for the moms, but alas.

Psycotherapy is worthless, besides why would you want it? What if they cure you, you'd stop enjoying and seeking the thrill in life. At least, when you're caught high with your bud, a coupla chicks in a stolen GMC Yukon somewhere on interstate you'd have a solid-ass excuse

 

[Silent Method]

You can diagnose a weirdo with whatever fancy name you want, hes still a weirdo.

Just like you can excuse a stupid person saying hes just dyslectic, discalculistic and has a concentration disorder, hes still gonna be stupid.

what happened to the world where the cross eyed are called cross eyed, the fat are called fat, the ugly are called ugly and the humpback is called hump

Disorders that fall within the diagnosable criteria of the DSM-IV don't have a fancy name for lack of cogent rationale. Yes, we all suffer from some form of neurosis, but that doesn't mean we all have, or have need of, a fancy name for our set of problems. Yes, some people are just further off the tip of the bell curve than others without needing to meet the criteria for some formal disorder.

However, those who truly fit into one of the specific diagnosable categories do so not simply because they happen to exhibit several atypical behaviors, but more so, they function with regard to a chronic set of atypical, maladaptive behavior indicative of a common psychopathologic root.

We can observe the function of two individuals, one a schizoid and the other having OCD, and we will likely agree that they are "weirdos." However, the explicit nature of their deviant and maladaptive behavior is quite different - and need to be dealt with in different ways.

As you said, we could give any arbitrary label to these two individuals. However, the truth remains that a big piece of each of their respective psychological profiles are uniquely congruent with those exhibited by a minority population of others.


In specific reaction to your mention of dyslexia, it’s evident you are not clear on what dyslexia is. Many geniuses are or have been dyslexic. Some of the very mechanisms characteristic to dyslexia, though manifesting in dysfunction in some area, are the same mechanisms thought to give rise to advantage in certain cognitive areas.

 

[Silent Method]

Juve/Silent

Is psychotherapy worthwhile treatment? How can they amend your personality? My mom made me go one for calling her a bitch and I didn't feel it did anything for me. Oh, and I love my mom and especially all your moms.

Psychotherapy can work and can work well. Like any practitioner of anything (such as doctors in general), some psychotherapists are better than others. However, given the extremely dynamic nature of the mind, I believe a good psychotherapist is more rare than a good medical doctor.

In addition, there are various modalities of therapy, some which may help, others not so much.

Also, your quality of life now must be weighed with respect to what benefit you may reasonably expect from psychotherapy. Something many people don't realize is that with psychotherapy, things often get worse before they get better. As the layers of psychological maladaptive compensation begin to strip away you must go through the growing pains of healthy functional adaptation.

Everybody responds differently to different therapies and different therapists. Is it worth it? I can only assume you feel as if you may be suffering from ABNORMAL psychological distress or the otherwise negative effects of deviant behavior or maladaptation. If this is the case I'd think it to be worth talking to someone.

 

[westsnoop]

I hate people. What's the term for that?

MISANTHROPE

 

[BileStew]

MISANTHROPE

I think I went out on a date with her once.

Spiteful, frigid bitch.

 

[Silent Method]

MISANTHROPE

Good word westsnoop. We have a new word of the day.