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I think primo tabs you need to swallow so many that its not really a good idea. The gel other guys may know more, but I thinkk that it is meant to deliver an HRT dose so for bodybuilders like us, the dose it too low. Now Var is a different kettle of fish all together. I used it for my first cycle 60mgs per day split up over the day, nolva for 2weeks after that for pct and gained 12lbs kept about 10lbs, strength increase was great, kept nearly all of that to. Only side I got was a sensitive scalp, but I dont think anyone else has had that though, I just lowered the dose towards the end to 50mgs / day, and it went. Hope this helps, other guys may have other opinions, ie use tbol instead, but I like the VAR....
There is a post tonight by bigguns 29 I think he has been put on it and 4 squitrs, 50mgs of test = only about 10% of that absorbed through the skin as I said a HRT dose. To get 250mgs of test which is really the least you should do, you would need an lot of the stuff. Hope this helps a bit more.
chyllaxyn
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I have used Androgel, , , sucks , you couldn't get enough in your system if you bathed in the shit.
It also makes your T levels yo-yo , When I first started using it I would get flush and even had chest pains for the first 10mins then nothing.
And most oral AAS is bad on the liver.
Back up to those pinz bro, after the first couple of pokes it becomes second nature
It also makes your T levels yo-yo , When I first started using it I would get flush and even had chest pains for the first 10mins then nothing.
And most oral AAS is bad on the liver.
Back up to those pinz bro, after the first couple of pokes it becomes second nature
DieselGunz
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Listen u want gains then FUCKING STICK!
no other way
no other way
taste-icles
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this gel stuff is not worth it unless you can sit in a hot tub filled with it every day for a few hours. a lot of cyclists (tour de france style) are supposedly taking it, but I can't see the purpose when they sweat so much and it requires you to leave it on the skin for like 6 hours...
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ALIN
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1392477 said:
the gel isnt very effective for muscle gains, only good for TRT in my opinion.
Anon Poster
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I used phlojel, worked well with cheap homebrew test and tren, wouldnt recommend anything pricey with such low absorbtion.
majutsu
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I'm a physician, and many patients use Androgel. The high concentration, 5g packet is quite good. In american labs, normal test is 300-900ng/dl. I have had many patients reach 7-800 on the packets. There is a new pump out which is much better (still Androgel). It dries much faster, and patients can adjust the number of squirts they apply per day. Many patients with the pump have attained levels of 1000-1500! For reference, 200mg test enan per week often seems to hit around 1200 in my experience.
For an excellent boost, especially if you are over 40, Androgel is excellent.
Off the record, Androgel and primo would make a good, clean low yield cycle.
If you want big bodybuilder-type gains, then Androgel is not going to cut it. You will never get anything like the blood level 500mg ew of test enan would give you (at least 2000).
But if you want a decent cycle without needles, and you're middle-aged, the androgel and a clean oral would be good for a nice cycle with good eating and tight training.
Basically, it's better than most people here seem to think (especially the new pump - it's like a bathroom soap dispenser) but less than an injectable cycle.
For an excellent boost, especially if you are over 40, Androgel is excellent.
Off the record, Androgel and primo would make a good, clean low yield cycle.
If you want big bodybuilder-type gains, then Androgel is not going to cut it. You will never get anything like the blood level 500mg ew of test enan would give you (at least 2000).
But if you want a decent cycle without needles, and you're middle-aged, the androgel and a clean oral would be good for a nice cycle with good eating and tight training.
Basically, it's better than most people here seem to think (especially the new pump - it's like a bathroom soap dispenser) but less than an injectable cycle.
1392477
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I am 37 yrs old, lifting on/off for 20 years - former high school/college athlete and private trainer with background in kinesiology. I have never used any AAS before and this would be my very first experience. I am not looking to compete or get huge - just to beef up a little and get past some strength plateaus. I am 6'3" and 230# with a bf around 12%.
I never experimented before because of fears about side effects and lack of sources. I already have a decreased appetite for sex and from what I have heard this should help to improve my libido as well.
For an oral cycle do you have any suggestions as far as Primo vs Anavar vs Turinobol. They all seem to be milder than a-50 or Dbol and probably a better choice for someone not looking to dramatically bulk up.
I have seen the pump advertised and priced around $200 from some online sources. The orals seem to be prohibitively expensive for most people to complete cycles with and it seems many are more willing to self inject than me.
I appreciate your feedback.
I never experimented before because of fears about side effects and lack of sources. I already have a decreased appetite for sex and from what I have heard this should help to improve my libido as well.
For an oral cycle do you have any suggestions as far as Primo vs Anavar vs Turinobol. They all seem to be milder than a-50 or Dbol and probably a better choice for someone not looking to dramatically bulk up.
I have seen the pump advertised and priced around $200 from some online sources. The orals seem to be prohibitively expensive for most people to complete cycles with and it seems many are more willing to self inject than me.
I appreciate your feedback.
majutsu said:
1000-1500 NOT!! Me and few of my friends go to the same hrt doc. and 5mg of Androgel taken every day in the am moved are level up 100 to 150ng/dl the only way your getting to 1000 is your already at 850 to 900. and 200mg of test enan. will bring you over 1200 a week. I get blood tests every 4 months and the test doesn't lie. Then you say 500mg will get you to around 2000 WRONG again I took 500mg of test every two weeks 4 years ago I went from 280 to 4000 every time blood tested was at 14 days of last shoot every 4 months.
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chyllaxyn
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zach01 said:
I would agree, I've used both and seen more levels more of what you are discribing.
It is really relvant to half life and length if cycle, at 200mg/week I guess you would be at 1200 at week 3-4 but not week 8-10. And I suppose if you did Androgel 3 -4 times a day you could hit 1500. in my experience androgel is like a roller coaster, i would get flush using two packets at once in the morning but I saw no gains felt no more power when i did evening workouts ,
