Andro or Norandro?

[eden]

I know this topic will get beaten up on this board since we should be discussing anabolics here...but im just not too ready for it yet and I'm ready for trying andro plus im on accutane, I dont want to do any oral yet since they're so hard on my liver if taken together...

K, I've heard really good stuff about both 4andro-diol and 19nor4-andro-diol, which I've done enough research on both and know what they are for, how they produce test and nortest and also know each of their potential side effect, my question is, should I stack them? If I just want to take either one of them, which one is a better choice??? I want really rapid gains seriously (without use of anabolics)~
also, how much of the gains can i expect to maintain after I'm off a cycle? What kinda result can I expect from a 4 week cycle of these products???

Thanks x a million big guys~!

 

[TxLonghorn]

eden, i have a question for you about what you consider anabolics and steroids. Why do you want to use 'prohormones' as opposed to a.s.? You do know most people regard prohormones as steroids, so if you are doing this to say you have never done steroids, you would be lying. Steroids have different strengths, just because some are basically worthless, does not mean they are not steroids.

So, what is your reasoning for wanting to use prohormones?

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

I got worse acne off prohormones than any AS.

 

[eden]

im on accutane and i dont want to risk the chance of damaging my liver, just think that prohormone is a safer alternative to anabolic steroids on liver, or am i wrong? thanks alot

 

[badazzwhitedude]

Injectable test does not strain the liver. Deca, Primobolan, test. All are very safe, and will not elevate liver enzyme values.

 

[Kodesh]

Ok, here is the fact. I do believe that i developed initial gyno from something called "Medroid". Man, my nipples burned really badly, but back in the days i had no fucking idea about gyno. Could not say i gained much either...

 

[MaxBiceps]

Don't waste your time with that shit, and if you are, then don't come here wasting our time.

 

[Mike80]

the only effect that prohormones have are they make your wallet lighter. I tried nearly every type pf prohormone stack for over a year and wish that I could have put that money into 2-3 good solid cycles. I hate prohormones

 

[bissenmir]

eden, what is accutane?

Personally think prohormones give gyno.
Stick w/AS and at least you will get big w/tits.

 

[CrazyRican]

a better question would have been ANADROL OR NANDROLONE?
honestly don't waste your money on prohormones they're useless and plus a friend of mine got more acne off it then a test cycle.

 

[chain saw]

All the different prohormones work by supposedly getting converted (by the liver) into all the different AS. In my opinion their bioavailability is limited as is the percent conversion; and they probably put a significant stain on the liver to boot. I would stay away from them, save your money and then when you are ready do a real cycle for real gains.

 

[Daeo]

Save your money for when you're ready to use AS. Andro is the biggest scam in bodybuilding today...