Anavar question

[spongey]

I have been researching this for a while and anavar seems like the best choice. This would be my first cycle. Could someone with experience reccomend a good brand? Money isn't tight right now so I can get the best quality stuff. I am 27 and have been training seriously for a little over 9 years. I cycle between westside, a modified 5x5 program and various bodybuilding programs a year. My diet is also pretty good. I was thinking of taking 30mg a day for 6 weeks. My main concern is how much of my gains will I be able to keep. Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Juice Authority]

Solid first cycle:

Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ
Week 1 to 10: 250mg of Test Enan or Cyp(preferably a single ester)
Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy*

*Clomid therapy: 36 pills. 300mg day 1, 100mg next 10, 50mg final 10.

This will yield solid results. Depending on diet, training, and genetics, this cycle should yield anywhere form 15-25lbs to a first time gear user

 

[Juice Authority]

I have been researching this for a while and anavar seems like the best choice. This would be my first cycle. Could someone with experience reccomend a good brand? Money isn't tight right now so I can get the best quality stuff. I am 27 and have been training seriously for a little over 9 years. I cycle between westside, a modified 5x5 program and various bodybuilding programs a year. My diet is also pretty good. I was thinking of taking 30mg a day for 6 weeks. My main concern is how much of my gains will I be able to keep. Any help would be appreciated.

I didn't read through your whole post. I thought you were asking for a good first cycle recommendation. In any case, if you're already decided on Anavar my choice would either LOEFFLER or Denkall. If you find a legit Paper source, PaperVar is also good choice. I would keep your dosage consistent throughout your cycle.

For example:

Weeks 1-10 40mg's ed.

 

[spongey]

thanks. What will my gains be like and how much will I be able to keep?

 

[spongey]

What do you think of

WEEKS 1-8:
*Winny- 50 mg every other day?
Anavar- 30 mg every day


*depot or tabs?

 

[Lestat]

All gains you get from Var you will keep as long as you eat enough protein to sustain your post cycle lean muscle mass. None of the gains will be water/bloat.

You should realistically look for 5-10lbs gained. Maybe a little less because some people report some significant fat loss on Var so while your overall weight may not go up significantly, your overall body composition will. Some people report some vasuculairty and hardness with var too.

30-40mgs per day should be fine.. anywhere from 6-10 weeks. For a first cycle I'd go for closer to 30mgs and closer to 6 then to 8 weeks... but others will tell you to run it for 50mgs a day for 12 weeks... its all up to you.

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

Depot. on the winni. With the winni you might get joint pain. You can toss a lil deca in there for your joints. I dont know how var effects your joints. Maybe someone else could answer that.

Someone else was just saying the samething about primo/var

I dont suggest taking two orals at once..murder on your liver and kidneys.

Make shure to protect your liver too. 1000mg milk thistle 1000mg of cranberry extract

 

[spongey]

If you dont know than what the fuck good are you? I have no need for you so PISS OFF!!!!!!!

 

[Juice Authority]

Depot. on the winni. With the winni you might get joint pain. You can toss a lil deca in there for your joints. I dont know how var effects your joints. Maybe someone else could answer that.

Someone else was just saying the samething about primo/var

I dont suggest taking two orals at once..murder on your liver and kidneys.

Make shure to protect your liver too. 1000mg milk thistle 1000mg of cranberry extract

Are you shooting from the hip here or are you stating a fact??? I need to clear this up...

If you are wanting to protect your liver from the winny you can't. Your liver will take the same hit whether injected or taken orally. The only advantage injectable winny has over oral is that the winny gets a free ride the first time around (from the liver). After that, it will be just the same as oral winny. Differences in your cycle's effectiveness will be negligible, although most seem to notice a difference in effectivness between the two routes.

Running two orals won't be much of a problem, especially if one of those orals is oxandrolone since the body has an enzyme that will take care of the 17-aa before it hits your liver. This is just one more reason why ox is considered so mild and so safe.

As far as dosing is concerned, I don't think I would run ox under 40mg/day unless you were only going to cut, then 20mg would be fine. But if you are wanting to add some muscle, hit a minimum of 40mg/day.

Some misinformed people think Winny and Var orals together will play havic on your HDL and LDL levels. Recommending injecting the winny instead of taking it orally because of side effects is ridiculous. It's wrong, wrong, wrong. Don't take this as a flame, but it's wrong. This includes, but is not limited to the liver, hdl and ldl levels.

There is only one reason to recommend injecting over taking orally, and that is PERCEIVED effectiveness. I prefer the results of injecting vs. oral, however I am not convinced that it isn't all wishful thinking.

I say keep the dosage 50-60mg/day for the winny and 40mg/ox. Hell that's over 700mg/gear/week.

Here's an idea...do one oral for 6 weeks, the other overlaps for 2 weeks and then continues for another 4.

The winny, regardless of whether it's taken IM or orally will hurt the liver the same. There are no health benefits to injecting it. If there were, don't you think everybody would be injecting reforvit-b by now? Why aren't they? Because it really doesn't make that much of a difference.