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Daeo
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If you plan on doing GH for 6 months straight I wouldn't recommend you staying on insulin the whole 6 months. The longest I'd go without a break is 8 weeks, and I'm crazy. Most will say to go 4 weeks on/4 weeks off. Sure GH increases your insulin resistance, but I wouldn't chance it. Take some breaks here and there, even if it's only for a couple weeks...
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I would try 4-6 weeks on slin with the GH and then go 2-4 weeks off and get your blood sugar tested or just see how you feel during the 2 off weeks. Getting your blood tested is as easy as it gets and will tell you exactly what you want to know. You can even buy the blood tester yourself and the test strips for right around $100 bucks or so. But even without the blood tests, if you feel fine for the 2-4 weeks off then you may be adjusting fine and you can extend the next cycle or stay on for the whole time depending on how risky you want to get.
IMO, you won't become permanently diabetic even from staying on slin throughout the whole cycle of GH- but that's just my opinion. I can almost guarantee that you will have some major problems with abnormal blood sugar, both lows and highs, when you come off of that much time on slin and GH. What happens is that you throw off the natural homostasis that your beta cells achieve when your hormone levels are constant. When you throw slin and GH into the mix, then go off, you are basically confusing the hell out of your body. I believe that with time your body will naturally start to find that homeostasis again- how long I'm not sure and when you fool around with your endocrine system things can be very unpredictable.
If you decide to cycle or if you decide to stay on the whole time, make sure you taper your dose of slin down when you get to the end of the cycle so that you make it easier for your beta cells to start producing more insulin again- kind of like a smooth landing rather than dropping right off the radar and expecting your pacreas to respond immediately.
Hope this helps some- good luck!
IMO, you won't become permanently diabetic even from staying on slin throughout the whole cycle of GH- but that's just my opinion. I can almost guarantee that you will have some major problems with abnormal blood sugar, both lows and highs, when you come off of that much time on slin and GH. What happens is that you throw off the natural homostasis that your beta cells achieve when your hormone levels are constant. When you throw slin and GH into the mix, then go off, you are basically confusing the hell out of your body. I believe that with time your body will naturally start to find that homeostasis again- how long I'm not sure and when you fool around with your endocrine system things can be very unpredictable.
If you decide to cycle or if you decide to stay on the whole time, make sure you taper your dose of slin down when you get to the end of the cycle so that you make it easier for your beta cells to start producing more insulin again- kind of like a smooth landing rather than dropping right off the radar and expecting your pacreas to respond immediately.
Hope this helps some- good luck!
Daeo
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Sorry I was at Factory...
Sorry. A guy has to work you know
Anyway like AD said I wouldn't worry about being a diabetic from using insulin for the whole duration. Saying that though I wouldn't tempt fate. It's going to be alot easier on your body if you give yourself a 2 week break every 4 weeks or so...
Deppnade said:
Sorry. A guy has to work you know
Anyway like AD said I wouldn't worry about being a diabetic from using insulin for the whole duration. Saying that though I wouldn't tempt fate. It's going to be alot easier on your body if you give yourself a 2 week break every 4 weeks or so...
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On the flip side of the questions though, going off of slin while still being on GH could be alot harder on your beta cells ability to bump up back to normal than if you were just doing slin alone and then went off. This is a very complicated situation but I think experimentation(safely) will be the only way to really find out for sure.
Now this discussion is at the right place for a reply. It is my opinion that you need to use the insulin for the entire cycle of GH, for the reason mentioned by AD. Not only are the 2 synergistic, but GH alone will suppress insulin sensitivity to the point of diminishing returns.
I have used insulin in reasonable doses for long periods without difficulty, but I feel, from personal experience, that 12 week insulin/GH cycles are ideal. Put a month off in between, and do your 6 months. I have done three 12 week cycles a year for a long time with very satisfactory results.
I am preparing to experiment with very slow acting insulins in combination with faster ones to maximize the anabolic properties of insulin by keeping a more steady blood serum level. Will report back on that, and thanks to AD for the product recommendations.
AD, you just keep getting better and better!
I have used insulin in reasonable doses for long periods without difficulty, but I feel, from personal experience, that 12 week insulin/GH cycles are ideal. Put a month off in between, and do your 6 months. I have done three 12 week cycles a year for a long time with very satisfactory results.
I am preparing to experiment with very slow acting insulins in combination with faster ones to maximize the anabolic properties of insulin by keeping a more steady blood serum level. Will report back on that, and thanks to AD for the product recommendations.
AD, you just keep getting better and better!
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Thanks IronMaster...lookin fuckin ripped in that avatar
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