An IGF conundrum

[kbrkbr]

Why does everyone shoot IGF IM? Why not subq?

I always shoot my gh subq and it works just fine. I want to do the same with my IGF because I don't want to create any more scar tissue in my muscles than I already have.

Any reason why I shouldn't.

 

[BigBlu]

Why does everyone shoot IGF IM? Why not subq?

I always shoot my gh subq and it works just fine. I want to do the same with my IGF because I don't want to create any more scar tissue in my muscles than I already have.

Any reason why I shouldn't.

I think sub-q is a very good option. Long R3 IGF-1 has a 6 - 10 hour half life. It is muscle specific and knows 'where to go' once in the bloodstream.

 

[52_21_30]

Nothing wrong with SubQ at all. It's just as good as IM. In fact it's better in theory, as you would not want to bathe muscle cells in acetic acid. People bitch that the subq stings too much because of the acid. But either way is fine. Site injections with IGF are no better than random IM or subQ pins.

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

well that makes things easier...thats how im gonna run next time for sure

 

[missionpossible]

I thought that sub-q in the abdomen was bad with igf because of the amount of igf receptors in the area causes an abnormal amount of growth to the intestines?

 

[kbrkbr]

I thought that sub-q in the abdomen was bad with igf because of the amount of igf receptors in the area causes an abnormal amount of growth to the intestines?

Doesn't make any sense to me. Once injected into the fat, the IGF is taken up in the bloodstream and distributed throughout the body. I can't imagine that it would first migrate to the intestines and then become systemic.

 

[dsh89]

I like the word Conundrum.

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

Doesn't make any sense to me. Once injected into the fat, the IGF is taken up in the bloodstream and distributed throughout the body. I can't imagine that it would first migrate to the intestines and then become systemic.

so do we have a consensis? can we go subq?

 

[Kachunga]

Yes you may go sub q. It still gets in there and does the job.Its a matter of preference. Slin pins are so small I seriously doubt you would be adding scar tissue. And if you are adding bacteriostatic water to your inject, you don't damage the underlying tissue with an "acid bath". To answer Missions ?, the visceral perotineum (the thick membrane that holds your guts in) in effect prevents igf-1lr3 from getting there and attaching itself to that mother load of receptors. You would have to use a pretty long needle and go straight in (who would do this??) to hit those receptors.
I would also like to add that the half life is much longer than 6-10 hrs which is why many inject eod. Not that I do. But some well respected folks do.

 

[kbrkbr]

Yes you may go sub q. It still gets in there and does the job.Its a matter of preference. Slin pins are so small I seriously doubt you would be adding scar tissue. And if you are adding bacteriostatic water to your inject, you don't damage the underlying tissue with an "acid bath". To answer Missions ?, the visceral perotineum (the thick membrane that holds your guts in) in effect prevents igf-1lr3 from getting there and attaching itself to that mother load of receptors. You would have to use a pretty long needle and go straight in (who would do this??) to hit those receptors.
I would also like to add that the half life is much longer than 6-10 hrs which is why many inject eod. Not that I do. But some well respected folks do.

Thank you bro. Always good to hear from you.

 

[njmuscleguy]

Maybe it's just me, but the first time I used slin pins was when I used IGF during my last PCT... loved it.... but I found that by the time I drew out the IGF from its vial, then the Bac water from its vial, the slin pin got dullened a decent amount, taking some force to push into the skin (even though it's such a thin pin).... given this, I'd imagine that doing it sub-q would only make it more difficult than IM... am I missing something here?

 

[Kachunga]

Maybe it's just me, but the first time I used slin pins was when I used IGF during my last PCT... loved it.... but I found that by the time I drew out the IGF from its vial, then the Bac water from its vial, the slin pin got dullened a decent amount, taking some force to push into the skin (even though it's such a thin pin).... given this, I'd imagine that doing it sub-q would only make it more difficult than IM... am I missing something here?

I know what you are talking about. A quick stab to the delt solves the problem lol

 

[njmuscleguy]

you're right... my first delt pokes ever were for my IGF cycle, and I loved it... easy as can be!

 

[kbrkbr]

Screw it. I'm going subq.

Thanks everybody.